The reason mustang people start to drool when they hear aluminum "stock style" intake is because they want an intake with near stock torque charactaristics with the ability to handle a nitrous backfire safely. It is not because we want to brag about having an aluminum intake. Think a little before bashing people, beacause you are usually wrong. Aluminum is better for us than just looks. And hell, if it took away 5 hp, but was metal and a decent price, I thing every wet kit owner would have one, and they would be proud of it.Gearbanger 101 said:....I think it's a waste of money for the most part. It's still based off of a stock casting, which has been proven to be more than capable enough to handle airflow needs for even the most extensive N/A bolt ons. Not only that, but even if the runners can be ported, it's made of cast aluminum, which doesn't have smooth and contoured finish like the plastic one it's based off of has. The turbulence it will create alone will be enough to set back most of the additional volume it might gain. I’ve got a feeling that if this intake is ever actually released; a lot of people are going to end up spending hundreds of dollars for the equivalent of 3-4hp and the ability to tell people the uniqueness of running an aluminum manifold on their hood.
Who was I bashing? I gave my opinion about the piece itself and didn't single anyone out in the process. Don’t get so defensive......what, have you got shares in this company or something, or better yet, are you the guys selling the intake on Ebay?Venom_Nitrous said:The reason mustang people start to drool when they hear aluminum "stock style" intake is because they want an intake with near stock torque charactaristics with the ability to handle a nitrous backfire safely. It is not because we want to brag about having an aluminum intake. Think a little before bashing people, beacause you are usually wrong. Aluminum is better for us than just looks. And hell, if it took away 5 hp, but was metal and a decent price, I thing every wet kit owner would have one, and they would be proud of it.
Yup. I'm planning on getting one of the intakes offered by Bob at HPS. Hopefully, it will work, and I'm going to due my best to get some before/after dyno runs to see if it makes any power. In fact, there is a guy at Modular Depot (I think Millzenator) is getting together a group purchase on the HPS intakes. The intake is listed at 600 dollars for the lower, and 700 for both the upper and the lower.droptopponynj said:Dark Knight GT i think has been talking with Bob the owner for some time so maybe he'll be the official SN test rat. I have a buck to chip in for the fund
If I wanted some Chinese, I would order some General Tso's chicken, and be done with it.Red35th said:The odd thing is that RPMoutlet.com already has the Professional Products intake listed as if they have it in stock.
Someone order it and see if they actually do...
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM yummyDark Knight GT said:If I wanted some Chinese, I would order some General Tso's chicken, and be done with it.
Dark Knight GT said:If I wanted some Chinese, I would order some General Tso's chicken, and be done with it.
Gearbanger 101 said:Who was I bashing? I gave my opinion about the piece itself and didn't single anyone out in the process. Don’t get so defensive......what, have you got shares in this company or something, or better yet, are you the guys selling the intake on Ebay?And I'm usually wrong.......now which one of us is doing the bashing?.......I think most of the people on this board might disagree with you about that one! Perhaps you need to do a little thinking for yourself before you speak?
If you want to ensure protection against a nitrous backfire, then go with a direct port system that would eliminate any puddling of fuel in the runners what so ever, like the one sold at the top of this forum. Just because the particular manifold described in this thread is made of aluminum, doesn't mean it's going to ensure against the effects of a backfire! Fuel still puddles in the runners and goes boom in the same way!?! Sure, it may hold up a little better than a plastic manifold, but nitrous/fuel explosions are volatile events, either way. It's not a guarantee that either manifold will hold up agains one. And now instead of ruining a Plastic PI manifold that can be had for under $150.00, you've toasted an aluminum one that cost 3-times as much.
......maybe you should watch this video smart guy. I'm sure he thought having an aluminum manifold would be a safe bet too.http://videos.streetfire.net/video/index.asp?fileid=880724C3-1AB3-43C9-96A8-491BD5FBDD33
Actually, the Professional Products piece looks like a rip off of the Trick Flow upper intake. Least in all the pictures I seen of it it did. You are right about companies copying other companies products, but that goes on in all parts of the marketting world. Thanks for telling me that Granatelli parts are made in China. In that case, I'll be avoiding them as well. I'm getting sick of everything being made in China.Red35th said:I know what you mean. At least this is their own design, I'm more okay with that. I have a much bigger problem with them stealing the designs of American companies. Compare their stuff to Edelbrock...how is that legal?
As a sidenote, the same can be said for Granatelli. Most of their stuff is made in China too (at least as of a year ago).
Then what exactly were you bitching about up on that soap box of yours?Venom_Nitrous said:Ummm......Read my sig........I am one step ahead of you.
I wasn't implying that someone would buy one to be "show-offish" as you put it, from a visual aspect. It's just that so many people are under the impression that having an aluminum intake over the plastic one would be so much better from a performance stand point in general......and I'm just here to say that it isn’t necessarily so. Sure, the Aluminum model may provide a little strength over the plastic one in the event of a nitrous backfire, but as you well know, it doesn’t guarantee reliability. Aside from a little added strength, what else has it got going for it? It’s adds about 25lbs to the front end of your car right off the bat and being based off the stock design means that the runners are going to be no higher flowing than that of a stock PI manifold. As it is, the inside of the runners are going to be full of casting flash and as rough as 80-grit sandpaper, which would lead to a more turbulent and obtrusive air path in comparison to the plastic one and in order to correct this, you'd have to pretty much cut it to pieces in order to port it properly. Finally the Aluminum manifold gets pistol hot to the point where you can't even touch it, in comparison to the plastic one which will remain far, far cooler to keep air charge temps down and under hood temps under control.Venom_Nitrous said:I was complaining that you said it would to be "show-offish" if a person decided to get one. I could see where that piece could be priceless to someone who wanted to feel a lot safer running a wet shot. You told me that if I am so worried about it, then I should buy a direct port kit. I have one. I have no need for the aluminum intake because of it, but I figured I would post the link to help someone else out.
Dark Knight GT said:Actually, the Professional Products piece looks like a rip off of the Trick Flow upper intake. Least in all the pictures I seen of it it did. You are right about companies copying other companies products, but that goes on in all parts of the marketting world. Thanks for telling me that Granatelli parts are made in China. In that case, I'll be avoiding them as well. I'm getting sick of everything being made in China.
If BBK is making one, then I would honestly wait on their lower intake piece. BBK is making better products these days, and you can always buy the BBK Upper intake elbow and 75mm throttle body combo for now from rpmoutlet for 299.95 w/ free shipping. Least I think they're still doing that deal.PistolPete79 said:http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv8dynotune.htm im tempted to buy it and port it out or maybe just wait for the bbk. havent decided. it looks just like the stock one though
PistolPete79 said:http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv8dynotune.htm im tempted to buy it and port it out or maybe just wait for the bbk. havent decided. it looks just like the stock one though
Gearbanger 101 said:and being based off the stock design means that the runners are going to be no higher flowing than that of a stock PI manifold. As it is, the inside of the runners are going to be full of casting flash and as rough as 80-grit sandpaper, which would lead to a more turbulent and obtrusive air path in comparison to the plastic one and in order to correct this, you'd have to pretty much cut it to pieces in order to port it properly.
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