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RedDaemon

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so the past few days i have been reading on the increased number of people having spark plug blow out. being paranoid i called up my local ford dealership and asked them if they had a stock replacement plug for my 99 gt with longer threads (the AGSF-32C...right?)

and they basically laughed and told me they havent made motorcraft plugs with copper since the early 90's

what gives!?

being that i knew something was wrong, i bought what they had/recommended me anyway since i was not at my computer.

they gave me AGSF-32PM

my car isnt moidified and id like the stock plugs back in my car..but i cant buy what they think doesnt exist..what do i do?

 

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You need to call elsewhere, or call/pm Randy. Those guys are fools.

 

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the key to prevent spark plug blow out is to torque each plug to 13lbs. Chances are, you already have the "updated" plugs.

 

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Well, the AGSF-32PM will work fine... That is just the platinum version instead of copper. But if you really want the copper plug they are available.

 

Mustang5L5

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I've bought plenty of copper plugs from my dealership.

 

RedDaemon

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well i just gave the same dealership a call and just asked them if they could order the copper plugs and he told me that he cannot order them anymore because Ford has "replaced" them with the "PM's"

whatever. ill just use these platniums and see how they work.

sine its platnium and not copper, should i take anything else into consideration when installing/gapping them?

 

Mustang5L5

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Not really. I mean the stock replacement plug for a 99+ GT is already a platnium plug. I don't beleive copper plugs have been OEM since 1995. In fact, copper plugs have never been OEM on any modular motor as far as i know

 

RedDaemon

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Mustang5L5 said:

Not really. I mean the stock replacement plug for a 99+ GT is already a platnium plug. I don't beleive copper plugs have been OEM since 1995. In fact, copper plugs have never been OEM on any modular motor as far as i know

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then ive been misinterpreting what people have been suggesting over the past few months about the 32C's being the stock replacement

 

Mustang5L5

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Maybe that's what the dealer meant? They haven't been OEM since the mid-90's


Stock replacement plugs are actually platniums. The 5.0 Mustangs were the last to use the coppers.

You can still buy the copper 32C's though.

 

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i keep AGSF-32Cs in stock in my parts dept. try calling them and asking for a SP-447. ford changed the spark plug part numbers to short numbers. the platnium plug is now called the SP-432.

 

RedDaemon

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Mustang5L5 said:

You can still buy the copper 32C's though.

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not from Ford I can't according to him

i can understand the OEM part about the whole thing which i can admit mistake assuming somethign that was incorrect

however i called up and told him if he could order AGSF-32C and he said he can NOT order these through Ford anymore and told me to try through NAPA or some place else

it is just strange...

 

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he is lazy, i order them all the time. ford still makes them, i just bought 8 for my own car on friday. i do all the ford parts ordering for my dealer.

 

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Autozone sells motorcraft plugs. Just buy them there

 

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i bought some from ford late last year or early this year. was $4 a pop or so.

 

RedDaemon

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thanks for all the help guys. this just proves to me that i will never go there for service if theyre just lazy!

 

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If you can't find any Motorcraft plugs, you can get Autolites, because that's what Motorcraft plugs are anyways. I know Checker/Schucks/Kragen/Murrays sells them for sure.

 

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the autolites dont have the extra threads on the plugs like the motorcrafts do.

 

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The last set I bought were fully threaded... I donno.

 

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if i picked up a 2000 GT how could i check to see if it has the right plugs? it has like 75K on it. if i pull one and its motorcraft would that prettymuch mean they are all okay?