Yeah Reddys right, Im just referring to now being in with the bad balancer crowd. And as Im sure you can tell, this thing was shot. Starting it up was painful for me the day I brought it to my shop to actually replace it. I only used one from an 89 in the meantime because I wont be doing any major work anytime soon and it doesnt see any high revs with the AODE. Are the 94 - 95 ones that bad or what? Seems to be more of a problem with our cars than the Foxs, but I admit I havent been on the Fox boards since I sold my 88.