Anybody heard of eefuel fuel additive?

Even if it did work, your wallet would still hurt. It probably costs as much money as it saves (if any).

You could always try it and then report back to us with your results.

Do a search on acetone in the 5.0 forum. Some people had success using it to increase mileage while others didn't. It took 4-6 oz to treat a tank of gas, and costs about $6 for a quart (32 oz) from Home Depot. Even if it didn't do anything for your gas mileage, it's a great solvent for paint, glue and such.

whoa whoa whoa, 6 ounces to treat ONE tank of gas? that is NOT how it works at all.

did your friends even bother to read the instructions on the bottle? you're supposed to use 8mL-10mL per TEN GALLONS of gas. my 2005 toyota tacoma has a 21-gallon tank so that'd be about 17-18mL in the middle range for me.

I've been testing it for a while and have been impressed with the results, myself.

Ideally, it should take 2 full tanks of gas before you see the biggest mileage increases, three at the most.

I'll do my best to summarize how it works, but I can go into greater detail if you like.

It does a few things:



-cleans carbon deposits in the combustion chamber (and, I presume, anything that comes into direct contact with combusting fuel), thereby restoring LOST fuel economy

It slowly cleans carbon deposits from your gas tank over the course of 1-2 tanks of gas. It works a bit like fuel injector cleaner in this regard, except FIC burns off large deposits right away. So with FIC you generally see a great increase in power right away (depending on how dirty your engine was before the treatment), but the problem is that those large chunks can clog or damage other components and give you other problems. eeFuel slowly removes those deposits, essentially giving you the same result as FIC: cleaning your combustion chamber components, thereby increasing the life of those components and restoring lost fuel economy.


-decreases emissions

-increases fuel economy on top of that.

These two functions are, essentially, performed at once. Insufficient testing has been done (I think) to actually measure the emissions of the exhaust; however, eeFuel does in fact dissipate - if not completely eliminate - vaporized fuel runoff.

Have you ever been driving and noticed that the car in front of you has liquid dripping or streaming out of the exhaust? That's unburnt gas. eeFuel helps this gas to vaporize more completely in the combustion chamber, with the result that this runoff is almost entirely - if NOT entirely - eliminated. This is technically a reduction in emissions, at least a reduction in LIQUID emissions, because you're not dumping gas onto the ground. It's also an increase in power.

Think about it: say you're burning 25mL of gas on a single piston stroke and 5mL of it is not vaporizing properly on that stroke. It condenses and makes its way through your pipes until it exits the exhaust of your car, kind of like a household A/C. Therefore, if you're burning this formerly-wasted fuel, you're going to get some added power. Before you were only burning 20mL out of 25mL but with the product you're burning all 25mL.

Granted, a 25% increase in fuel economy IS on the high side of estimates; average fuel economy increase is rated (according to the manufacturer) to be 10% - 15%, with many reporting around 18%. High, manufacturer-rated estimates are up to 25% but I have heard at least one report of someone getting upwards of a 37% increase.

I'd give you a bottle if I could spare it, but in any case I'd suggest at least trying it out. I have been for the last thousand miles or so, myself, and while I need to conduct some further testing to accurately measure my fuel economy I CAN tell you that it has yet to cause me any problems and it has in fact given me an increase in power.

And if you're concerned about potential damge to your engine, check out fuellegacy.com and look at the section that details independent testing. An Italian firm - Ferrari, I THINK - actually tested this in diesel locomotives for 26,000km (roughly 15,000 miles) and not only was there no corrosion damage in that vehicle's engine when they took it in for an overhaul but it was actually quite clean.

And $6 a quart? That sounds like a fake product to me, considering it retail for $27.99 through Fuel Legacy International, which actually markets the product.

Although if they have photos of the bottles + receipts, I guess I would be wrong.

keitel66 said:

Have you ever been driving and noticed that the car in front of you has liquid dripping or streaming out of the exhaust? That's unburnt gas.

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As soon as I read this part, I stopped reading the rest. That's not unburned fuel, that's CONDENSATION, which is a common result of normal gasoline combustion. This is why you see steam in the winter when you first start up your vehicle, up until it reaches full operating temp (and, depending on the temperature and running condition of the vehicle, it may still persist but is usually not as steamy after reaching full temp).

Someone shows up out of the blue with 0 posts and starts posting a cut-and-paste informercial in their reply? I call Shenanigans on this one. This has the look, smell, and taste of pure

Okay, I'll bite:

if it is water condensation, how does it end up in the exhaust? Through the normal, ambient humidity?

And would you care to refute the notion that steam in the winter is not actually from vaporized water, but the hot exhaust meeting cold air AND the increased pressure of the cold air?

Ahh. I apologize; I'm false and you're correct. The below text is actually quoted from the wikipedia entry on this:

Air and noise pollution

Internal combustion engines such as reciprocating internal combustion engines produce air pollution emissions, due to incomplete combustion of carbonaceous fuel. The main derivatives of the process are carbon dioxide CO2, water and some soot—also called particulate matter (PM).

Even that, however, does state that there's incomplete combustion. I suppose this would be, specifically, where the unburnt fuel I mentioned comes from. The notion that I posed - that unburnt fuel is actually in a liquid state - was purely my own and apparently false.

If you'd like to actually read the official claims of this stuff from the manufacturer, check out Fuel Legacy International

... although I still think the stuff is essentially just overpriced fuel injector cleaner. Seafoam does almost exactly the same thing - it's just a high-powered detergent - doesn't cost diddly, and doesn't need to be used in every (or every other) tankful to do any good. If your motor is so carboned-up that something like Seafoam won't take care of it, then you have far more serious engine issues to sort out that require actual mechanical repair and/or physical cleaning that NO pour-in detergent in existence will fix. The fuel economy and power "improvements" are likely in comparison to a carboned-up motor versus a cleaned one, and short of a failing O2 sensor or blocked EGR passage(s), I don't see how it's even physically possible for a pour-in additive to add 25% to one's fuel economy.

Try adding acetone or denatured alcohol, instead. Cheaper, actually shown in SOME cases to improve emissions and/or fuel mileage (although not all), and unless you pour in unreasonable amounts, it won't hurt anything at all to try it ... even your wallet.

Darkwriter77 said:

... although I still think the stuff is essentially just overpriced fuel injector cleaner. Seafoam does almost exactly the same thing - it's just a high-powered detergent - doesn't cost diddly, and doesn't need to be used in every (or every other) tankful to do any good. If your motor is so carboned-up that something like Seafoam won't take care of it, then you have far more serious engine issues to sort out that require actual mechanical repair and/or physical cleaning that NO pour-in detergent in existence will fix. The fuel economy and power "improvements" are likely in comparison to a carboned-up motor versus a cleaned one, and short of a failing O2 sensor or blocked EGR passage(s), I don't see how it's even physically possible for a pour-in additive to add 25% to one's fuel economy.

Try adding acetone or denatured alcohol, instead. Cheaper, actually shown in SOME cases to improve emissions and/or fuel mileage (although not all), and unless you pour in unreasonable amounts, it won't hurt anything at all to try it ... even your wallet.

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The thing is, eeFuel not only restores lost fuel economy and power but it also ADDS it on top of factory-rated fuel economy... meaning it'll clean your engine and actually it makes it run cleaner.

I still have to run some more tests, but it looks like i'm getting about 3-4mpg extra ON TOP of my '05 tacoma's rated 19mpg city. And like I said, my truck was almost without a doubt 'carboned up' before that.

Also, it CONTINUES to clean your engine roughly until 2,000 - 3,000 miles (provided you've been using it the whole time). You see the largest, most noticeable increases by the 2nd or 3rd tank and may continue to see marginal increases in fuel economy by the 2k - 3k milestone. After that, it constantly keeps it clean.

ultimately, though, I'm not sure anything I can say will convince you. It's up to you if you want to try it or not. I can tell you it's working for me, however.

If you have any questions PLEASE email me keitel66@gmail.com

one more thing I need to point out, because it's rather unique:

Seafoam is EXTREMELY toxic and, apparently, fairly dangerous to use... considering it's about 20% naphtha by volume.

wikipedia entry on naphtha: Naphtha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Seafoam MSDS: http://www.seafoamsales.com/pdf/MSDS_SFTT_US.pdf

Naphtha, in ancient times, was actually used as a high explosive in military applications. It was also likely used in industrial applications as it is today. Pretty useful for increased fuel efficiency considering Seafoam's boiling point is only 180 degrees... don't cars generally run upward of 200 degrees?

In any case, although I can't personally attest to how non-toxic eeFuel is, I CAN tell you that it is actually NON-FLAMMABLE - it actually states this on the bottle.

gm top end cleaner will kick the crap out of seafoam

keitel66 said:

one more thing I need to point out, because it's rather unique:

Seafoam is EXTREMELY toxic and, apparently, fairly dangerous to use... considering it's about 20% naphtha by volume.

wikipedia entry on naphtha: Naphtha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Seafoam MSDS: http://www.seafoamsales.com/pdf/MSDS_SFTT_US.pdf

Naphtha, in ancient times, was actually used as a high explosive in military applications. It was also likely used in industrial applications as it is today. Pretty useful for increased fuel efficiency considering Seafoam's boiling point is only 180 degrees... don't cars generally run upward of 200 degrees?

In any case, although I can't personally attest to how non-toxic eeFuel is, I CAN tell you that it is actually NON-FLAMMABLE - it actually states this on the bottle.

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Wait ... why would you pour something NON-flammable into your gas tank? If it's non-flammable, it very hard to burn. Wouldn't that be like pouring sugar or water in your own gas tank?

Darkwriter77 said:

Wait ... why would you pour something NON-flammable into your gas tank? If it's non-flammable, it very hard to burn. Wouldn't that be like pouring sugar or water in your own gas tank?

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Some people run water injection instead of meth. It works for them. That being said, I've read quite a few reports of acetone working and quite a few people that didn't try it bashing it. Kietel, you might want to look into acetone and what it does to gasoline.

sgw_88FoxGT said:

Well if Seafoam is dangerous because it's combustible then I guess I should also stop using gasoline, eh?

Why does Keitel66's argument read like an infomercial? Keitel66, if you want to send me a bottle, or even a sample, for free then I'll be happy to use it but I don't have $30 to drop on something that may or may not work. I just tried Marvel Mystery Oil and my car is already running smoother. It actually cured a cylinder balance failure my OBD was telling me, plus it's like $6/bottle of 5 uses or so.

Anybody besides Keitel66 use this eefuel stuff?

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sure, I'll send you a bottle. I do have a few stipulations; nothing that will prevent you from not paying for the bottle if you see no benefit, but rather to make sure that you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that not only is it saving you money but it's paying for itself several times over. If you're still interested e-mail me

keitel66@gmail.com

*sniff, sniff*

I smell

I smell spam too.

keitel66, you sound WAYYYY too much like someone who registered just to push a product...

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