AODE NOT STRONG ENOUGH!!!

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01GTCONVERT01

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Ive had 6 AODE transmissions and i keep having them rebuilt with heavy duty stuff and i keep frying them out. I'm now on my 7th and i have basically a stock mustang, i have no idea what the hell is going on, the guy that rebuilds them says that they shouldnt be frying like they are but they do. Im stuck in a corner here guys, with a new .030 over forged motor and a blower i need a transmission that can hold this. Can the AODE be built correctly to handle this?? I have given thought about a C4 transmission but i dont know if it will match up, (probably not) what should i do?? I NEED MAJOR HELP HERE, and converting it to a manual just seems like a lot of work, time and money, PLEASE HELP!!

 

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find a new re-builder


the 4r70w is fairly strong, ecspecially when built. how many ponies are you pushing?

 

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its a stockish car, 410s in the rear, CAI, mass air sensor, cat-back, aluminum drive shaft, and the "builet proof" aode trans

 

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You won't find a bellhousing to bolt a C4 up to a 4.6. That doesn't mean an adapter can't be made. Maybe there are already adapters to bolt up any SBF transmission to a 4.6? That's what you'd need.

Far as killing these AOD's, something definately isn't right, they are strong tranmissions. What's happening to them that kills them? I'm guessing HEAT which causes slippage and then kills the bands and clutches.

Do you have a stock converter stall speed? Do many hard launches, by loading the engine against the converter? I'd say ensure you tranmission cooler is functioning properly (in the radiator) and definately add an external cooler. Everyone who expects performance from an automatic transmission should have extra cooling capacity.

 

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the rear seal blows out a lot and the driveshafts crack down the middle and you are probably right about the HEAT being the factor of damage. im just getting sick of it because its a stock engine

 

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http://dirtydogperformance.com/

alan built mine, and hes built some for 5-6-700hp cars and off hand a truck with 1000lb/tq so whatever your yahoo builder is doing is just costing YOU money. call alan and get a real trans built.

and yes, there are c4 bellhousings for 4r70w's

 

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holy s**t mine has had the same problem, im on my second one, WITH THE EXACT SAME ISSUE's except with the t3650. and I have no blower !

 

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VicRattlehead said:

http://dirtydogperformance.com/

alan built mine, and hes built some for 5-6-700hp cars and off hand a truck with 1000lb/tq so whatever your yahoo builder is doing is just costing YOU money. call alan and get a real trans built.

and yes, there are c4 bellhousings for 4r70w's

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Alan or Darrin at http://www.bc-automotive.com

 

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Firstly as said, this sounds like a heat problem, you need the biggest stacked-plate external tranny cooler you can fit in front of your condenser. Run this bypassing the stock heat exchanger all together. Next either do the j-mod or have someone rework the stock valve-body for you and install a shift kit. I've done this: http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=693684
and my tranny will handle what ever the F i throw at it

 

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Really, find a new builder, my 98's 4R70W went thru hell and back, even 3 neutral to reverse drops from friends and nothing happened to it

 

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Build 4R70W with JMod and modified Marauder Torque Converter here. I'm putting 410hp/465lbs ft of torque through mine, pushing around a 4,000lb luxobarge without issue.

 

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damn 7 trannys i would of been sold my car after 3 lol

 

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Mine is at 11 years of abuse and still going strong...find a better shop!

 

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i'm pushing over 400rwhp with my stock tranny. all i've done is the J-mod and a trans cooler. if you've gone thru 7 trannies, the problem is you, not the 4r70w.

 

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bhuff30 said:

You won't find a bellhousing to bolt a C4 up to a 4.6. That doesn't mean an adapter can't be made. Maybe there are already adapters to bolt up any SBF transmission to a 4.6? That's what you'd need.

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They've made SFI bellhousings to bolt C4's to a 4.6 for awhile now. I know of a few people that have them on there drag cars..Dave Guy who runs his car with a Cobra engine car in Renegade, Alian who has a YSI on his 96 GT has one. You can go to Performance Automatic and they have them listed on there web site for the 4.6.

 

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Get a 4R70W

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TH400 from JW Performance.. under 3K for a complete setup, with converter, bellhousing, flex plate and shifter. It'll handle 1000hp, no sweat.. and it'll most likely hold up better than any C4 you put behind your motor.

 

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Dusstbuster said:

Get a 4R70W

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The 4R70W is AOD-Electrontic or AODE

 

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CobraRed_96_GT said:

The 4R70W is AOD-Electrontic or AODE

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Actually the AODE and 4R70W are different. The 4R70W has a wide ratio gear set compared to the AODE. A lot of people are confused as to what has a AODE and 4R70W and call them the same which is wrong...

 

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Dusstbuster said:

Get a 4R70W

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If he has an 01 (per his screen name), he has a 4R.