Are the Super 40s a big scam?? I now have the truth!
Looks like it to me, here's why: Yesterday I got my car up on ramps and was all fired-up about installing my new Super 40s until I started comparing them to the Delta 40s already in my American Thunder system. I measured both of them with a tape and held a Super 40 up against a Delta 40 and they were both THE EXACT SAME SIZE!!! 13.5" long by 10" wide and both 5" thick. WTF?!?!
I even compared all the spot welds showing through both cases and they looked identical to me so I decided to not waste my time installing them. They even have the same part #'s as my current Delta 40s (952548).
The only difference that I could see was that the Super 40s are painted black instead of silver. How can Flowmaster get away with this ... unless I'm overlooking something? I even talked to someone in the tech dept. at Flowmaster before I ordered these. I first asked him if the current Delta 40s are the same size as the ones offered in the C/B and he told me yes. I then asked what made the Super 40s so much better and he told me they're an inch taller with a better flow path radius. How can that be if they both measure 5" tall and the spot welds looked the same to me. I obviously can't see the guts of them, but you can see where all the spot welds are holding the chambers and baffles in place through the outside of both cases.
Needless to say I'm pissed about this whole thing! I even went through the trouble of ordering stainless clamps and new flow tubes so I didn't have to butcher my A/T C/B to install these. I was just going to remove my current mufflers and flow tubes (Flowmaster welds the mufflers to the flow tubes) then bolt the new ones in and then go to a shop and have hangers welded to the back of each muffler and be done. I hate to say this and maybe I missed something, but if I painted my current mufflers black it would look like I have the new Super 40s.
I've been a die-hard Flowmaster fan for years and this was a big surprise to me and I hope I'm wrong. Have any of you actually compared the Super 40s to the Delta 40s? Right now I feel as if I just wasted my money and should send them back. What do you think?
Looks like it to me, here's why: Yesterday I got my car up on ramps and was all fired-up about installing my new Super 40s until I started comparing them to the Delta 40s already in my American Thunder system. I measured both of them with a tape and held a Super 40 up against a Delta 40 and they were both THE EXACT SAME SIZE!!! 13.5" long by 10" wide and both 5" thick. WTF?!?!
I even compared all the spot welds showing through both cases and they looked identical to me so I decided to not waste my time installing them. They even have the same part #'s as my current Delta 40s (952548).The only difference that I could see was that the Super 40s are painted black instead of silver. How can Flowmaster get away with this ... unless I'm overlooking something? I even talked to someone in the tech dept. at Flowmaster before I ordered these. I first asked him if the current Delta 40s are the same size as the ones offered in the C/B and he told me yes. I then asked what made the Super 40s so much better and he told me they're an inch taller with a better flow path radius. How can that be if they both measure 5" tall and the spot welds looked the same to me. I obviously can't see the guts of them, but you can see where all the spot welds are holding the chambers and baffles in place through the outside of both cases.
Needless to say I'm pissed about this whole thing! I even went through the trouble of ordering stainless clamps and new flow tubes so I didn't have to butcher my A/T C/B to install these. I was just going to remove my current mufflers and flow tubes (Flowmaster welds the mufflers to the flow tubes) then bolt the new ones in and then go to a shop and have hangers welded to the back of each muffler and be done. I hate to say this and maybe I missed something, but if I painted my current mufflers black it would look like I have the new Super 40s.
I've been a die-hard Flowmaster fan for years and this was a big surprise to me and I hope I'm wrong. Have any of you actually compared the Super 40s to the Delta 40s? Right now I feel as if I just wasted my money and should send them back. What do you think?
I told him their advertising is very misleading and he tells me all I had to do was ask. Well, I did ask someone before I ordered these and was told that the 4" X 9.75" Delta 40s you can buy individually are the same ones that come in the kit, that was a lie. The American Thunder already has the Super 40s included. He asked me who I spoke with originally and I failed to get a name and he told me I should've.
