Are Underdrive pulleys worth buying?

BLaCk-40th · May 11, 2005

I was thinking about purchasing some steeda pulleys..But are they even worth buying?Do they help that much for $200?

myponyrocks · May 11, 2005

yes and no, I didn't have any SotP gains but 5th had more power for sure... no issues with 950 watt amp and sub either.

Waste of money in the long run if like me you plan on adding a super charger eventually (within 1 year). But everything adds up, and as far as bolt ons go, 200 for 3 HP is a good deal.

BLaCk-40th · May 11, 2005

Just by adding pulleys can a person even feel a difference>?

sgarlic · May 11, 2005

Highly unlikely you'll feel any difference.. (unless the pulley is driving a supercharger.. har har.)

myponyrocks · May 11, 2005

BLaCk-40th said:
Just by adding pulleys can a person even feel a difference>?

SotP = Seat of the Pants... AKA Butt-Ometer

No you wont notice anything, but as I said the car had pull in 5th where it didn't before. The pulleys were the first thing other than the Shaker and weld in flows I did. I dont really feel any of my mods any more, but the best way to feel a difference is to go up hill, if you can use a higher gear more comfortably than before then you know you have gained something.

joshheat25 · May 11, 2005

So really what are all of the benifits from pullies?

Chili · May 11, 2005

joshheat25 said:
So really what are all of the benifits from pullies?

They reduce the parasitic (sp?) loss from your pulley driven accessories. Driving those pullies takes away hp. By changing the diameter, the pulleys turn more slowly, requiring less power.

COramprat · May 12, 2005

IF you get pullies the Steedas are a good choice. They replace the stock crank instead of piggybacking it. My opinion is they are a waste unless you are looking for a tenth or two at the track. They really don't help you in the real world.

streetstang03 · May 12, 2005

i never could understand paying 200 for ~5hp. or spending 500+ for a plenum and getting 8hp waste of money IMO. i would save it for cams or gears

Black2001GT · May 12, 2005

I got 8 RWHP from Steeda pullies.

300bhp/ton · May 12, 2005

Black2001GT said:
I got 8 RWHP from Steeda pullies.

just curious but how do you know?

a rolling road dyno is far too inaccurate, even doing 2 or 3 pulls consectivly without any changes to a car could see bigger gains or losses than 8rwhp.

I hope it did give you an increase but more than likely a large % of that increase is just the inaccuracy of the measurement.

Black2001GT · May 12, 2005

300bhp/ton said:
just curious but how do you know?

a rolling road dyno is far too inaccurate, even doing 2 or 3 pulls consectivly without any changes to a car could see bigger gains or losses than 8rwhp.

I hope it did give you an increase but more than likely a large % of that increase is just the inaccuracy of the measurement.

I am not going to sit here and have a debate with you on the accuracy of a Dynojet Dyno. I understand there are several factors that could influence results on a dyno.

I had several before and after dyno pulls after each mod was installed on my car. The average gain in HP was 8RWHP and 10 lbft TQ.

Dan_Soprano · May 12, 2005

joshheat25 said:
So really what are all of the benifits from pullies?

on an older 5.0 they were good for power, but not so much on a 4.6. Waste of money IMO. They are kinda pricey, and the gains are minimal at best. keep the $200 you were going to spend on them and get yourself a predator or something like that.......even a N20 kit. I hate saying it, but NOS is your best bang for your buck in this market.......but be careful with it!!

007 · May 12, 2005

They are better value for money than plenums and TB thats for sure. They are a proven mod good for about 7rwhp. Why does everyone forget to mention they improve your fuel economy by reducing the parasitic loss. They pay for themselves soon enough! I think everyone should have Steedas unless than plan on a blower sometime soon.

Black2001GT · May 12, 2005

007 said:
They are better value for money than plenums and TB thats for sure. They are a proven mod good for about 7rwhp. Why does everyone forget to mention they improve your fuel economy by reducing the parasitic loss. They pay for themselves soon enough! I think everyone should have Steedas unless than plan on a blower sometime soon.

I agree. Funny how those who do not have them say pullies are a waste of money.

Dan_Soprano · May 12, 2005

Black2001GT said:
I agree. Funny how those who do not have them say pullies are a waste of money.

I did have them, there for I believe I am qualified to say they are not worth it.

Black2001GT · May 12, 2005

Dan_Soprano said:
I did have them, there for I believe I am qualified to say they are not worth it.

I wasn't referring to you, your list of mods make you more than quailfied to voice your opinion on mods.

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MustangEd · May 12, 2005

i had them on my 5.0 and noticed a big difference. definitely worth it. i also have them on my 4.6. didn't notice as much of a gain. even considered putting the stock ones back on. if i had to do it all over, i would have passed on the pulley mod. just thought i would share my experience.

propellerhead · May 12, 2005

I've read many times that they are great for the 5.0s and 4.6'ers aren't getting as much out of them. Personally, I chose not to get u/d pullies because of the harmonic vibration concerns, and a few smaller concerns. Granted not everyone is going to encounter them but I've seen accounts of serious damage to the motor due to harmonic vibrations, and several accounts of the minor annoyances that come with pullies.

Will I have a problem? I don't know. Probably not. Will I risk if for maybe 4-5 hp? No.

Black2001GT said:
I agree. Funny how those who do not have them say pullies are a waste of money.

Well, duh! Do you find it equally funny how those who have it say they are worth it?

Black2001GT · May 12, 2005

propellerhead said:
I've read many times that they are great for the 5.0s and 4.6'ers aren't getting as much out of them. Personally, I chose not to get u/d pullies because of the harmonic vibration concerns, and a few smaller concerns. Granted not everyone is going to encounter them but I've seen accounts of serious damage to the motor due to harmonic vibrations, and several accounts of the minor annoyances that come with pullies.

Will I have a problem? I don't know. Probably not. Will I risk if for maybe 4-5 hp? No.

Well, duh! Do you find it equally funny how those who have it say they are worth it?

The "accounts" with Harmonic vibration damage, have they been from Steeda UDPs or piggyback UDPs?

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