Axel Moan

05 Horseplay · Aug 1, 2006

I had a moan in my car as well. It turned out to be the set up on the rear end. This was also not uncommon for our Mustangs, plus a few other ford Models.

My dealer was good enough to allow me to substitute some 3.73's for the stockers, since they had to pull everything apart anyways.

No moan now, unless you count the tires complaining.

allcarfan · Aug 1, 2006

For those that have had this done....how long did it take?

tom281 · Aug 1, 2006

What to fix it all yourself? Go to your dealer and buy a bottle of XL3 for about $6. Pour it into your rear end (lol, your differential), make a couple of figure 8s in an empty parking lot, and I bet $500 to most of you that your noises will be gone.

Be aware that if you take the car in for TSB "warranty repair", most repairs only replace the clutch packs with lighter material to eliminate the noise. If I were you, I'd rather spend $6 and get rid of the noise than to lose the car for a day and get clutch packs with less material installed.

There is much discussion on this on another forum, FYI.............

krang00 · Aug 1, 2006

Do you have a link to the other thread? I'd be interested to read some of the info.

tom281 · Aug 1, 2006

PM's sent to krang00 & Reign696.

tiggerwof · Aug 2, 2006

Fix Or Repair Daily

I am a new Ford Customer and own the 06 GT automatic mustang. A very doggy car without a very good tune. I will be taking my car in for the 4th time in 4 months for the 4th different reason since I bought it new. Quality is Job #1 on the 3rd try I guess.

Sorry for the rant but I too started to experience a "griding", "moaning", or metal on metal noise at 4K miles and it is getting worse every day. I assumed it was a steering or wheel issue. I went for a short drive with a service tech and he guessed the noise was a brake pad or rotor issue but sure enough, it turned out to be the same dreaded clutch pack or limited slip rear differiential issue you are all having. He then tried to tell me the car and part were functioning as expected and that the noise will always be there! HUH?

I have an appointment to get it fixed but the same service tech said "I can't guarantee the sound will go away because it is working properly now and with our past, similar experiences with the FORD Explorer, the noise may stay the same, get better or even get worse." WTF?? New cars should not be this problematic.

Why won't FORD just do their standard recall as they have to do on almost all their models? I have a bad feeling that this car will start crumbling soon after the warranty period expires, especially with all the plastic this car is made of. The saying is true...you get what you pay for. I regret not buying a more powerful and better built car like the Charger, GTO or Corvette or dare I say...an import.

bigcat · Aug 2, 2006

sorry to hear about your disappointment.

iskwezm · Aug 3, 2006

tiggerwof said:
Why won't FORD just do their standard recall as they have to do on almost all their models? .

as a former Ford Master tech, unless its a safety issue, it only gets a TSB.

allcarfan · Aug 4, 2006

If we take ours back....it gets repaired, and then we get the same noise again.....

I will take the car back time after time after time. I have all the time in the world - and maybe after taking it back several times, the dealership will do something about it.

My question is still posed, and has not been answered....is this a real mechanical/failure issue or is it just annoying?

TheMaster · Aug 4, 2006

I have the same question as you allcarfan. Is it just annoying or is it a real mechanical/failure issue? I can live with the noise and I really dont like people taking my car apart except me.

tom281 · Aug 4, 2006

Most Ford mechanics will tell you that the unit is functioning properly. That is why I suggested previously that you put a bottle of XL3 in the rearend. It will VERY LIKELY eliminate most if not ALL the noise that you're hearing.

Reign696 · Aug 4, 2006

IT'S GONE!!!!!!!!!!

I agree 100% with "Tom281". Every shop that I took my GT to said that the noise is the Posi-Trac functioning properly.

I went to my Ford Mechanics today and I got them to put some Motorcraft XL-3 into the rear axle, and "VIOLA!" The dreaded whine/noise is gone! Thanks for the input "Tom281".

The bottle of Motorcraft XL-3 was $4.25 and it took about an hour for my Mechanic to soak my parts in XL-3. I'm very Satisfied!!!!

rolly boy · Aug 4, 2006

I've had my o6 GT stang back to the dealer twice for this moaning/whinning sound during low speed turns. First time in they replaced the rack/pinion. Problem was not corrected...took it back this week and had service manger take test drive with me. He did not feel problem was with steering...but something in rear end of car. Called me later that day and said problem was defective clutch pack. Replaced part...I have driven car for two days at all speeds and sound has gone away. There is a TSB that dealers can quickly research for resolution of this problem. Thanks for starting this thread...helped me know that other stang owners were having same problem.

Rolly Boy
06 GT
Black/Black leather
IUP
18" wheeels

tom281 · Aug 4, 2006

Reign696 said:
I agree 100% with "Tom281". Every shop that I took my GT to said that the noise is the Posi-Trac functioning properly.

I went to my Ford Mechanics today and I got them to put some Motorcraft XL-3 into the rear axle, and "VIOLA!" The dreaded whine/noise is gone! Thanks for the input "Tom281".

The bottle of Motorcraft XL-3 was $4.25 and it took about an hour for my Mechanic to soak my parts in XL-3. I'm very Satisfied!!!!

Excellent! Glad I could help!

allcarfan · Aug 4, 2006

im gonna try the ol XL-3 trick. Can that ONLY be bought at a dealership?

tom281 · Aug 4, 2006

allcarfan said:
im gonna try the ol XL-3 trick. Can that ONLY be bought at a dealership?

Don't know.......it's Motorcraft- maybe Autozone?? Ford will have it for sure.

Mike97gt · Aug 6, 2006

Reign696 said:
The Technician told me that the noise I was hearing is a part of the TCS engaging; I don't buy that response. I think I'll take my GT to another Service Center and ask them about the Clutch Pack. I hate the noise, but I guess I have to deal with it until the Winter because my GT is my only personal vehicle with AC.

~Later....

I am a ford service tech myself and I hate to say this but the majoority of techs don't know much. Out of 20 techs at a medium size dealer probally 5-8 of them are any good and the rest are just hacks that will work cheap.

That TCS engaging stuff is a load of crap. The TCS is just part of the ABS system. Just like the rest of the ABS system when there is no traction loss event the TCS does nothing.

When the ABS module sees the rear abs sensor has a difference in speed compared to the front abs sensors then it activates the rear brakes to try and slow down the rear wheels, plus it signals the PCM to reduce tourqe by cutting timming.

Reign696 · Aug 6, 2006

svttech76 said:
I am a ford service tech myself and I hate to say this but the majoority of techs don't know much. Out of 20 techs at a medium size dealer probally 5-8 of them are any good and the rest are just hacks that will work cheap.

That TCS engaging stuff is a load of crap. The TCS is just part of the ABS system. Just like the rest of the ABS system when there is no traction loss event the TCS does nothing.

When the ABS module sees the rear abs sensor has a difference in speed compared to the front abs sensors then it activates the rear brakes to try and slow down the rear wheels, plus it signals the PCM to reduce tourqe by cutting timming.

Wow! That's a very good explanation of how the TCS performs; I've always wondered about that. Thanks.

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