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Blown88GT

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Let's see under the hood. They had unique alternators.
 

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revhead347 said:
So......it's a 5.0 that has been ridden hard and put away wet with about 800,000 miles/ 4 million hours of idling. Is this about the heavy duty steering rack and oil cooler that is now 30 years old? What makes special services cars special?

Kurt
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Based on this, 93 Cobra's had a different bumper and side skirts, outdated boring old iron gt40 head, and a sub par disc brake setup? What makes them special?

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Let's see under the hood. They had unique alternators.
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Actually they didn't. A 3G alternator was an option, not standard equipment. Mine had the regular old alternator when I bought mine.





Here is some of the items it would have come with:

  • Engine oil cooler
  • Silicone radiator hoses and aircraft-style clamps
  • Auto transmission fluid cooler
  • 130 and 135 amp internally and externally regulated heavy duty alternators (Optional)
  • Two-piece VASCAR speedometer cable
  • Certified calibrated speedometer 0-140 mph (1982-early 1989) and 0-160 mph (late 1989-1993)
  • Non-operational courtesy lights (safety feature)
  • Relocated rear deck release
  • Single key locking doors/trunk
  • Reinforced floor pans
  • Full size spare tire
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One thing that makes them special is you couldn't just walk into the dealer and buy one....well, not entirely true..I bought mine new.

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Blown88GT said:
Let's see under the hood. They had unique alternators.
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Alt was gone and a few other things prior to me starting to break it down. Can't confirm the engine is the one that came with the car. Ill have it out this week to check #s on block. Here's a couple things that line up with SSP characteristics:

holes in rear decklid for antennae. the highway patrol had them on the side, so this being on top ( to me) lines up with the notion of the unmarked


additional lighting wired in to courtesy light area


holes in dash for radio/radar

holes in console for radio


reinforced seats (I think) with LOTS of rust.... lets remember I bought it for the wheels/5lug conversion =]
 
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I want to see a picture of the gauge cluster Im always interested in those cop cars. Is it a 160mph
 

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I want to see a picture of the gauge cluster Im always interested in those cop cars. Is it a 160mph
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It got a god awful white gauge on it now :/ got some extra wires going in and out of it
 

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Mstng93SSP

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Carefully remove those white face gauges. They are usually just laid over the original gauges. Hope, and pray that the correct cluster is under there.

Hopefully you find one of these.


Chris
 
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Gs87GT said:
I completely agree. That would be cool.
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I will be honest in saying I wish I could but I don’t see it happening to this car. Just don’t have the pockets for full resto like she deserves. This was my “throw away” chassis I planned to put $50 into, and that was for the tow away

Unfortunately the car has already been bastardized in a sense. but I DO plan on keeping it now, for myself, and may do a restomod based on the unmarked FHP traits? Got to get my $ back from the ‘92 flip before any of that happens though...
 
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Guess I don’t see the hype in an SSP car unless it’s legit intact and still has the markings, radios etc. As mentioned cool you have a heavily worn and ragged motor. It really no longer looks like an SSP car just another hodge podge notch. For the price sweet pick up, but everything has been taken off and it just has remnants besides I guess the motor. Are you planning to get it back looking like an SSP car?
 

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Here is another way to look at it. The cars never came from Ford with radios, lights, markings etc. They were delivered and looked just like any other LX coupe, and various police departments did their thing. Drilling holes everywhere, installing radio's, sloppy paint jobs, etc. I have never been a fan of the cars that were "restored" to look like an old highway patrol car, but to each his own.

These two cars are SSP's, and this is how they were delivered except I had put pony rims on mine. (mine is the blue one)





Removeable light bar





These pictures were taken around 2000 or 2001.

This is the same car today



I guess the point I am trying to make is don't get too caught up in the "police car" aspect of it. Make a nice car out of it. No matter what it will ALWAYS be an SSP car as that is what it came off the assembly line as and has the buck tags to prove it. If I had just left mine 100% stock I'm sure the value would be higher but it's not what I wanted to do. Mine has gone through a lot of changes over the years, and is far from original but it is my car and I enjoy it.

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Mstng93SSP said:
Here is another way to look at it. The cars never came from Ford with radios, lights, markings etc. They were delivered and looked just like any other LX coupe, and various police departments did their thing. Drilling holes everywhere, installing radio's, sloppy paint jobs, etc. I have never been a fan of the cars that were "restored" to look like an old highway patrol car, but to each his own.

These two cars are SSP's, and this is how they were delivered except I had put pony rims on mine. (mine is the blue one)





Removeable light bar





These pictures were taken around 2000 or 2001.

This is the same car today



I guess the point I am trying to make is don't get too caught up in the "police car" aspect of it. Make a nice car out of it. No matter what it will ALWAYS be an SSP car as that is what it came off the assembly line as and has the buck tags to prove it. If I had just left mine 100% stock I'm sure the value would be higher but it's not what I wanted to do. Mine has gone through a lot of changes over the years, and is far from original but it is my car and I enjoy it.

Chris
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Thanks, Chris. Appreciate the kind words. What beautiful cars. That's what I'm going to do, hold on to her and make her my own.

It's funny how my focus originally was to make a quick buck, and now I have a cool car that has some neat history. Reminds one to slow down and enjoy the little things. Guess I'll have to restructure my build plan now =]
 

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Reddevil91 said:
Guess I don’t see the hype in an SSP car unless it’s legit intact and still has the markings, radios etc. As mentioned cool you have a heavily worn and ragged motor. It really no longer looks like an SSP car just another hodge podge notch. For the price sweet pick up, but everything has been taken off and it just has remnants besides I guess the motor. Are you planning to get it back looking like an SSP car?
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Nope. Planned to gut her and toss her as a roller. Now I plan to keep and build up over time. Into what? Most likely not a police replica, I like to make one off's.

I agree, though. Not the most amazing thing, and not a lot of hype behind it.

But to me, it's like buying a scratch off for $1 and winning $100. Nothing to write home about - Didn't win a lambo. But now I have a couple extra bucks to have a nice steak dinner and some (socially distant) drinks with my buds.
 
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Reddevil91 said:
Guess I don’t see the hype in an SSP car unless it’s legit intact and still has the markings, radios etc. As mentioned cool you have a heavily worn and ragged motor. It really no longer looks like an SSP car just another hodge podge notch. For the price sweet pick up, but everything has been taken off and it just has remnants besides I guess the motor. Are you planning to get it back looking like an SSP car?
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It's my understanding that you can't have a car with the FHP paint scheme in Florida.

The SSP cars also had a single key for both the ignition and doors/trunk.
 

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JD08 said:
It's my understanding that you can't have a car with the FHP paint scheme in Florida.
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I was actually curious about this when I put some thought to it. But makes sense.

There is enough going on for the real police, no need to add fake ones to the mix
 

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JDSpeed said:
Nope. Planned to gut her and toss her as a roller. Now I plan to keep and build up over time. Into what? Most likely not a police replica, I like to make one off's.

I agree, though. Not the most amazing thing, and not a lot of hype behind it.

But to me, it's like buying a scratch off for $1 and winning $100. Nothing to write home about - Didn't win a lambo. But now I have a couple extra bucks to have a nice steak dinner and some (socially distant) drinks with my buds.
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Hell yeah I hear that man, but I’d love to recreate a tx dps cruiser. They just always looked so mean!!
 

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JD08 said:
It's my understanding that you can't have a car with the FHP paint scheme in Florida.

The SSP cars also had a single key for both the ignition and doors/trunk.
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Really? Even just the paint? I can see the no badging etc. Shoot here in tx I’ve seen retired dps crown vics everywhere, spotlights still in, just de badged, but when you roll up on one from a distance or they are coming up behind you, it gets you puckered. Then you see the homie cruisin and you are like mother f’r!!!! There is a guy selling this one which I would love to have. I’d rid of the storm trooper but it’s an ex tx dps.
 
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Really? Even just the paint? I can see the no badging etc. Shoot here in tx I’ve seen retired dps crown vics everywhere, spotlights still in, just de badged, but when you roll up on one from a distance or they are coming up behind you, it gets you puckered. Then you see the homie cruisin and you are like mother f’r!!!! There is a guy selling this one which I would love to have. I’d rid of the storm trooper but it’s an ex tx dps.
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I can't say I've seen the actual law, but that's what I've been told. I was told there's one FHP fox body in FL owned by a trooper and he needed permission to have it painted in their colors.


I know of one 1991 FHP car fully restored in MA, but the owner doesn't drive it. He's got some really cool other cars also included the Back to the Future Delorean that was at the Boston Science Museum.
 

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JD08 said:
I can't say I've seen the actual law, but that's what I've been told. I was told there's one FHP fox body in FL owned by a trooper and he needed permission to have it painted in their colors.


I know of one 1991 FHP car fully restored in MA, but the owner doesn't drive it. He's got some really cool other cars also included the Back to the Future Delorean that was at the Boston Science Museum.
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FHP sold them at auction painted in their colors. I can't imagine that to be true.

Kurt
 

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Mstng93SSP said:
Based on this, 93 Cobra's had a different bumper and side skirts, outdated boring old iron gt40 head, and a sub par disc brake setup? What makes them special?
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Bingo!! They aren't special. I would never pay what these guys are asking for a 93' Cobra.

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CarMichael Angelo said:
Wasnt I the one getting the bad rap for busting people’s balls?
Now it’s a Medal of Honor?
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It's a National pass time. You do it more frequently than I do.

Kurt
 
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