Lol yes....well I've got the X pipe and I've heard a LOT of foxes...but I haven't heard one locally that drones quite as bad as mine. It's to the point that, at that rpm, you can no longer hear the exhaust note. AT ALL. No more exhaust, no more engine tone, just NOTHING but drone and reverb for about 300 rpms. It's DEAFENING.
Lol I'm just convinced that it's these POS headers....I hear equal-length shorties have a problem with droning...I want to get L/T's to correct that. I hope. If not....I think I might just go insane..
Lol I'm just convinced that it's these POS headers....I hear equal-length shorties have a problem with droning...I want to get L/T's to correct that. I hope. If not....I think I might just go insane..
Weird... I have Mac shorty unequals... a custom made x-pipe.. and 2 chambers... I've have tail pipes on, then dumps.. then tailpipes again, then now I'm back to dumps... lol. My drone always comes at low RPM, abour 1200-1400. But I do know what you all are talkin' about with th 2000 RPM drone. I like it. Makes you remember you're driving a bad ass Mustang.
Nick
Nick
I've got a '93 GT. I had 2 chamber flows and a factory H-pipe behind MAC shortys until a couple of months ago. I liked it, but due to rusty pipes, I had to change it all out. I decided to go with the aluminized Bassani catted X and Bassani cat back systems. I absoulutely LOVE the new sound. It's deeper and throatier and you just gotta' love that popping, burbling sound when you let off the throttle! The Bassani stuff fits right up. No leaks. Good quality clamps. It is more than the others, even getting the aluminized and not the stainless, but it's worth it. I wouldn't suggest mixing Bassani X and Flowmaster mufflers. Chambered mufflers sound best with an H pipe. Straight through mufflers sound better with an X. I'll tell you what DOES sound good is the Bassani X and Magnaflow Magnapacks. My buddy has that setup on his '98 Cobra and it is wicked. The Packs are definitely louder than the Bassani mufflers. If you've got to have loud, go with Magnaflow Magnapacks, not the regular Magnaflow mufflers. Otherwise, I'd stick to Bassani from the headers back. Oh, by the way, the buddy I spoke of had to dump his Delta flows shortly after he put on the Bassani X. The combination of X and chambered mufflers caused an annoying buzz or hum at certain RPMs that he couldn't stand! It wasn't a drone. He had that too, but this was a nasty sound! That's why he went with Magnapacks.
Gearbanger 101 said:
I'm almost positive I've got a leak, but I cannot find it for the life of me. Not only do I have the 1800-2200 rpm drone...but on the interstate, it drones, chatters, rattles, and reverbs all the way between 1800 rpms and 3000 rpms!! Thats over 1000 rpms of HORRIFIC NOISE!! All the Mustang guys ask me "you running open H pipe?" and I say "no, I've got an X and mufflers, why?" They go "Oh, it sounds like it's open".
The x pipe gives off a lot more drone than an h..especially coupled with some shorty headers. I ran shorty's with an offroad x and 2 ch. flows and it was just down right unbearable in the car. The longtubes and h pipe will quiet down the drone.
As far as mufflers(for sound), i prefer the bassani over everything i've tried(which is just a few,lol)...absolutely no drone! The quiet thunders sound real aggressive..but the race versions are just down right MEAN!
As far as mufflers(for sound), i prefer the bassani over everything i've tried(which is just a few,lol)...absolutely no drone! The quiet thunders sound real aggressive..but the race versions are just down right MEAN!
Actually, a lot of folks will tell you that a switch to long tubes made a huge improvement in the drone factor - regardless of muffler choice.
Sound quality/volume is a subjective thing. What one person likes, another person may think sounds like ass. So only you can decide what you like. But most folks, especially as the years go by, will tire of the drone factor. And it does set other things to vibrating because of resonance.
The design of the two mufflers in question is significantly different. Flowmaster quiets (relatively) by reflecting the sound waves back on each other and achieving some cancellation of noise. Bassani is a packed/perforated design that tries to absorb some of the noise in the packing. The Bassani will grow louder over time as the packing deteriorates. I had one (single system) on mine for about a year, and it got so loud that I had to take it off. And Bassani's warranty -- well, let's just say as a practical matter they don't have a warranty; and I won't be buying any more of their product.
I've got a single Magnaflow in front of the rear axle, feeding into a single SpinTech behind the rear axle and mine's too loud for me. After exploring the issue in great detail, the muffler designers at Arvin-Merritor have convinced me that the way to go (if you want to quiet things down a bit in the drone department) is to put high-flow cats back on. The high flow units offer virtually no flow restriction (contrary to popular belief) but because of all the surface area in the honeycomb ceramic matrix, they do a great job at cancelling out some of the noise.
Bassani or FlowMaster? Pick what you like -- nobody else can decide that for you.
Sound quality/volume is a subjective thing. What one person likes, another person may think sounds like ass. So only you can decide what you like. But most folks, especially as the years go by, will tire of the drone factor. And it does set other things to vibrating because of resonance.
The design of the two mufflers in question is significantly different. Flowmaster quiets (relatively) by reflecting the sound waves back on each other and achieving some cancellation of noise. Bassani is a packed/perforated design that tries to absorb some of the noise in the packing. The Bassani will grow louder over time as the packing deteriorates. I had one (single system) on mine for about a year, and it got so loud that I had to take it off. And Bassani's warranty -- well, let's just say as a practical matter they don't have a warranty; and I won't be buying any more of their product.
I've got a single Magnaflow in front of the rear axle, feeding into a single SpinTech behind the rear axle and mine's too loud for me. After exploring the issue in great detail, the muffler designers at Arvin-Merritor have convinced me that the way to go (if you want to quiet things down a bit in the drone department) is to put high-flow cats back on. The high flow units offer virtually no flow restriction (contrary to popular belief) but because of all the surface area in the honeycomb ceramic matrix, they do a great job at cancelling out some of the noise.
Bassani or FlowMaster? Pick what you like -- nobody else can decide that for you.
I've got the Bassani Cat-back and as mentioned before, the sound is awsome but not overtly loud. It's got a very deep "Eat Me" rumble to it that causes neighbors I've never met stop by occationally to ask what I've got under the hood. At idle or cruising at low RPM the sound is very tame. At WOT (with the inserts removed) the ricer (and often corvette) next to you will be doing his best to hide the wide eyed look he mistakenly let slip. I drive somewhat of a sleeper and prefer a docile presence until the gas is mashed. It's also a daily driver and is often driven on road trips of 600 miles or more (kid seat in the back and all). That said, the Bassani is the exhaust I would still choose if I had to do it over again. If you're looking for a more brash screaming agressive presence that sounds like NASCAR even at idle you may want to go with your other system. It pretty much boils down to what Michael said. What do you like?
Yes... at least for now. I've spoken with Bob Kennedy at length about that. With my mods and the boost I'm planning to run, He says it's very doable and has done it quite often. I've got an FMU and a boost a pump installed and bought a wideband O2 sensor and reader to do what tuning I can do without a dyno. My current setup doesn't really creat much of a problem with not having enough vacume for it to operate so I'm gonna stick with it for now and see how it goes. Once the 331 is complete (I've barely started) the speed density will have to go.
Edit: UNLESS... That new eec in the latest MM&FF is all it's cracked up to be.
Edit: UNLESS... That new eec in the latest MM&FF is all it's cracked up to be.
Bassani catbacks have been noted to reduce drone due to the resonators in the tailpipes. Drone is no fun if you drive any highway miles at all. My previous stang had Dronemax--I mean Dynomax--Super Turbos and they rattled my fillings on the highway!
My current combo (MAC unequal shorties, Pacesetter off-road x-pipe and Bassani Street Thunder catback) has no drone, a nice mellow rumble at idle, screams at WOT but cruises quietly--I love it!
My current combo (MAC unequal shorties, Pacesetter off-road x-pipe and Bassani Street Thunder catback) has no drone, a nice mellow rumble at idle, screams at WOT but cruises quietly--I love it!