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Mr. Hawver

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Hey there,

I am trying to shoehorn some BBK equal lengths from a Fox into my 95, but I am having a one problem. Before you say it, I know, equal lengths are horrible ideas, but I got them really, really cheap... so I'm giving them a shot.

Anyhoo, I've got the header bolted up on the passenger side, but it is smashing the hell out of the A/C line that runs from the accumulator to the condenser. I realize that this tube shouldn't be crushed. Short of disconnecting the A/C line and rerouting it through the inner fender, what else should I check or what could be wrong?

Thanks!
 

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Long tubes do the same thing. There should be a little clip that holds the line to the inner fender. Go up inside fender behind the strut and drill a little hole a little higher up. Then detach that clip, and pull the line up and attach it at the higher hole. It is flexible enough that you can strech it by hand. You will have to use a small bolt and nut to attach it to the new hole. I've done the same thing on all the SNs I've put headers in.

Kurt
 

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i had some bbk equal lengths on mine way back when, and they burned plug wires left and right and made it a real pain to get to the spark plugs.

any gains you MIGHT see from them are not worth it, in my humble opinion

i would steer clear of them if i were you.
 

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I've never ran equal length shorties, but I've never had to do anything with the AC line with both MAC and BBK longtubes
 

revhead347

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Last5.0 said:
I've never ran equal length shorties, but I've never had to do anything with the AC line with both MAC and BBK longtubes
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Not sure about the MAC longtubes, but you definately have to move it with the BBK longtubes. It's not exactly a big deal anyway.

Kurt
 

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The BBK actually fit better and were easier to install than the MAC.

I did put some heat wrap around that AC line because it was close to the primary tubes, but it wasn't anywhere close to touching or crushing it. I also had Energy Suspension poly motor mounts and Edelbrock aluminum heads, so either one of those might effect where the header sits in the bay. Dunno
 

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When I put my BBK longtubes on, it melted the AC line. I actually redesigned the routing for the line, and had a hose shop make me a new one to my specs. It's not necesary though, it's really easy to relocate the stock line. I'm having an issue with BBK right now, because they sent me the wrong EGR tube, but their headers definately are better fitting. They offer 1 3/4 primary headers for SNs now, they just don't have an EGR provision. I actually have the car where I just bent the stock line back in here for more work right now, so I decided to post pictures of the relocation. You get the general idea from the pics, but it's not easy to get a camera in there.





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wow! this is the thread I've been looking for!

new '94 cobra owner with this EXACT issue! I'll try moving the line this week - so, just drill a mounting hole a bit higher up the shock tower, correct?

One question, though....the stock lines are routed to keep stress off the connections - will pulling the line up create stress on the connectors enough to cause a freon leak? Also - would a tubing bender help to bend the hard lines slightly to help in the line relocation? Or not necessary?
 

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tomc3 said:
new '94 cobra owner with this EXACT issue! I'll try moving the line this week - so, just drill a mounting hole a bit higher up the shock tower, correct?

One question, though....the stock lines are routed to keep stress off the connections - will pulling the line up create stress on the connectors enough to cause a freon leak? Also - would a tubing bender help to bend the hard lines slightly to help in the line relocation? Or not necessary?
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No, there's no issue with it causing a leak. Once you get in there and feel how easy that hose moves, then it will be more apparent how little stress you are putting on it. The car in the picture there has been like that for 3 years now.

Kurt
 

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My last name is HAWVER
 
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Seriously? Hawver is rare, as I'm sure you know. Where do you hail from?
 

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Mr. Hawver said:
Seriously? Hawver is rare, as I'm sure you know. Where do you hail from?
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Yeah that is why it caught my eye. Maryland originally, although I live in PA now. What about you?
 
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All my family is from Iowa/Illinois, but I moved down to SC while my girlfriend gets her masters.
 
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