Been Scammed what should I do?!?!

69Rcode_Mach1

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First things first, nobody buy from this ****er on corral. Here is all his information:

John Mattingly Corral Username: sauce
485 Akins Narrows of Pitman
Greensburg, KY 42743

(270)-932-2104

I bought what was said to be a Mighty Demon 750 Carburator, I paid $400 for it and then the bastard sends me an old beat up speed demon. I have tried to come to a resolution with this guy but he won't give me my money back. What would you guys do. The payment was made through paypal so I think I can get the buyer protection, but I don't know. This is my first time in this ordeal so I want to know the best way about this. I was thinking of calling the local police in Kentucky to go give him a visit. Thanks in advance guys.

 

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Cops won't do anything, just get your money back via pay pal and give him the worse negative feedback you can think of.

 

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bnickel

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that would be interstate fraud and it falls under the jurisdiction of the FBI you may also have some recourse with the US postal service if he shipped by mail. i would try to do the paypal buyer protection first as that would be your best and fastest course to getting your money back. don't mess with the FBI unless you absolutely have to.

 

69Rcode_Mach1

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Thanks guys I will be out of town this weekend so my replies after tonight may take some time, so feel free to pour in all details necessary. Will definitely contact paypal ASAP and try to figure this all out.

 

jesset

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Dont always count on paypal. I've had several bad transactions with paypal and well, to say the least, they don't exactly go after all your money. Greedy *******

 

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Sorry to hear about your situation. So many ****heads in this world. Good luck.

 

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chemeng

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Did you use a credit card through PayPal? If so call them and stop the charge and explain the situation. Then mail the carb back.
MikeR

 

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chemeng said:

Did you use a credit card through PayPal? If so call them and stop the charge and explain the situation. Then mail the carb back.
MikeR

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yeah if you used a credit card, call the CC compqny. i sold some stuff on ebay a while back and the guy used a CC. then he called the CC company and told them the product was not as described or something. look into your credit card buyers protection stuff.... but i disputed it with paypal, and all they said was we disputed it with the credit card company and lost. so the guy got $400 worth of stuff for FREE (or better ON ME! they deducted the money from my paypal account) needless to say, but i refuse to use paypal now.

 

65fastback2+2

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the only time i used paypal to get my money back, they got it all back....the buyer protection is an extra added option before you send money...for $400 it was prolly a $5 add-on that appeared right before you clicked "pay now"...so paypal may not HAVE to do anything....i would go through your credit card company....post this all on the corral....contact him again....then if all else fails....contact the police/fbi/whatever

 

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Know anyone nearby....I dont mean to do anything illegal, but just to let him know you are not just some random name on the internet.

 

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ForceFed70

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FWIW. PayPal is useless as far as getting your money back goes.

 

latamud

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I've called my CC company everytime I got a "non-responding" seller after I paid through paypal. Everytime they did a chargeback to my card. One time the CC operator did ask me if I went through paypal first and I said no, so she told me to do that first so I hung up and called back and spoke to a different person and they didn't ask about paypal. Man, that's a run on but I still got my money back. Good luck.

 

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Mmmmmm.......Fl. Gator got Him?

 

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As someone already said: Contact paypal immediately and request your money back. Plus it also a federal crime for him to do it over state lines. So you have something there also.

 

1320stang

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Postal Money Order seems to be the best course for anything of big value. Just getting ahold of a person at a CC company is an ordeal, and Paypal is a joke, the only ones their interested in protecting is theirselves. Don't be suprised if you see a Paypal Credit Card in the future though.

 

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As you can see from my handle, I am probably better positioned to give advises regarding medical issues but here is my 2 cents.

First and foremost, do you have any advertisement of the product he was selling?? For any recourse, you have to be able to show that the advertised product is not what you have received. As with previous suggestions, contact paypal and your credit card company and keep detail logs of who you spoke to etc... Try to get a time line of the actions they are supposed to take to resolve your problem and keep following up with them. If you are not satisfied with the actions suggested, ask to speak to a supervisor and keep going up the chain until you get a satisfactory resolve. Mail fraud may be a little more tricky to demonstrate but you can call your local postmaster whom can answer direct you regarding that. To be honest, I did not know about the interstate laws regarding the selling/purchasing of goods, but getting the feds after him may keep him up at night (always does with me)

If you are set on pursuing legal actions, you can go to small claims court. Again a detail account of your dealings with the seller will be very important, from the transaction advertisement to the email conversation to the attempts to resolve the problem etc....... If you are sure that there was a malicous intent to defraud, you can call your state Attorney General whom will be glad to take care of business. Let me tell if they are as accommodating as in my neck of the woods...... In the meantime, be careful not to go on a defamation rampage.

I also agree that the local KY police would not be able to do much (unless the KY Attorney General would call to get him picked up for "questioning").

Hope it helps!!!!

 

69Rcode_Mach1

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K you guys are right paypal won't do ****. They said that they only do the buyer protection if you buy through ebay. My father contacted American Express and they said that there is nothing that they can do. I think that my father half assed the phone call and didn't go about it properly since it wasn't his money.(But it is his card that is why he called) Please explain in detail what I should say to American express to get my money back. If that fails should I call the FBI?

 

Skymarshal

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I suspect the FBI has more important things to devote manpower to right now than people who are misrepresenting carburetors on the internet!

Go through the credit card company or take the guy to Small Claims. Those are about the only things you can do. You saved the original ad and all the documentation, right?

 

69Rcode_Mach1

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Yep it has all been saved I have all the evidence then when I told the guy he has his last chance to give me my money back before I take legal action. He told me **** you!!! Hoping that will degrade his image if I go to court or anything.

 

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mustangman1974

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contact American Express's fraud division. Be a bit rude with the operator until you get to a manager. They tend to avoid work if possible. Tell the fraud person the timeline and what happened, then have our father refuse the charge from paypal to his credit card. This will start the "due dilligance" process on yoru end, because you can name paypall, American Express, and the seller in small claims court. You want to prove to the court you tried to solve this issue. When you go to court as for the judgement to be bonded. This may caost you a small percentage, but marshalls collect the money and if he dont pay its contement of court.