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dkhl

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Anybody know what's the best bang for the $$$ if your starting to mod a completely stock car?

I know one of the top mods would be CAI.. other than that I would be at a loss..
 
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id say a 347 stroker and a cartech turbo kit...lol... or you could do CAI, and exhaust first
 

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Gears and shifter.
 

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CAI would not be a first choice of mine.

as GT said, gears and some exhaust stuff would likely be first.

good luck.
 
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"Current Mods
AFR 185 Heads, TKO Trans, Performer RPM II Intake, Bassani Exhaust, Pro 5.0 Shifter, K&N FIPK 2, FRPP 4.10 Gear, Custom FTI Cam
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completly stock car...? Did i miss something?
 

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Scorcher2005 said:
"Current Mods
AFR 185 Heads, TKO Trans, Performer RPM II Intake, Bassani Exhaust, Pro 5.0 Shifter, K&N FIPK 2, FRPP 4.10 Gear, Custom FTI Cam
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completly stock car...? Did i miss something?
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LOL, i missed that. i think he might have another stang or is asking for a friend. otherwise i can see it now:
"what, oh you mean these things dont come with twin turbos?"
 

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Scorcher2005 said:
"Current Mods
AFR 185 Heads, TKO Trans, Performer RPM II Intake, Bassani Exhaust, Pro 5.0 Shifter, K&N FIPK 2, FRPP 4.10 Gear, Custom FTI Cam
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completly stock car...? Did i miss something?
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You mean your car didn't come like that? Man you got ripped off
 

Michael Yount

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The stock box IS a CAI; the aftermarket CAI's look good, but you can modify the stock box for similar performance.

Try these changes in the following order:

1) Remove the silencer in the inner fender from the stock air intake box, and install a K&N flat panel filter.
2) Set the initial timing to 14 degrees btdc (remove the spout before setting timing, replace it after)
3) Gears - 3.73 or 4.10 if you're feeling a bit more aggressive
4) Exhaust system - if the motor's gonna stay basically stock, shorty headers won't help compared to the stock headers, but long tubes will help (be sure to add O2 sensor 'extenders'); 2.5" system.
5) Either bolt on an aftermarket intake, or have tmoss port your lower stock intake.
6) Have a good set of sub-frame connectors welded in.

Those changes will make a huge difference in performance, without affecting drivability. You might not want to do anything else!
 

281pony

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for performance you cant go wrong with gears. gears, shifter, exhaust for the sound/some performance.
 

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As per Mr Yount..you can not go wrong following that advice. Cai will take 100$ of your money and give you nothing but a little bling. Follow his list.
 

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what about a good tune-up including timing? i was wowed by that alone! that was my first mod, then used Pro-5.0, then exhaust.
 

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Tune up...and i mean a GOOD tune up with quality parts
Gears
Shifter
CAI
Exhaust from the engine back, headers included
Subframes...i dont list these sooner because they don't make the car faster and don't impress as much as the other stuff, but once you start making more power they become even more important
 
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85_SS_302_Coupe said:
Tune up...and i mean a GOOD tune up with quality parts
Gears
Shifter
CAI
Exhaust from the engine back, headers included
Subframes...i dont list these sooner because they don't make the car faster and don't impress as much as the other stuff, but once you start making more power they become even more important
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Gears are pretty costly and CAI is mainly for sex appeal but definately get a shifter, exhaust, and subframes.. and of course slap a cd player in there and tint the windows if you want..
 

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dont fear the gear 410s
 

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GEAR's and exhaust
 

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On a budget? do the junkyard upgrade...

Gears - 87-88 T-Bird Turbo Coupe rear axle - disc brakes and 3.55 or 3.73 gears in one package for $125-$300. Add another $100-$200 or so to complete the brake upgrade.

94-95 Mustang GT MAF - $40-$100. It is 70 MM instead of the stock 55 MM on regular stangs built prior to 94. It uses a slip on duct on the side that goes to the throttle body and a 4 bolt flange on the other. You need a $25-$35 flange adapter from Pro-M to fit the stock slip on air ducting that goes to the air box. Wiring plugs right in with no changes. *1

95-97 Ford Explorer intake manifold & throttle body $150-$300. The intake manifold flows 220 CFM +, much better than stock. Throttle body is 65 MM, bigger than the 60 MM on stock stangs. I got a 96 with EGR passages that match the stock setup, so my smog gear works just like factory. You’ll need a 65 MM EGR spacer & new gaskets for $65-$90 so you have a place to mount the EGR & throttle linkage.

3G alternator from 94-95 Mustangs or other Ford. $20-$120. A must have to make the electrical system work like it should. You’ll need a 4 gauge power wire and a 125-135 amp fuse to go with it about $15- $30.

Lincoln MK VIII electric fan -$40-$160. Free up some HP by not having to drive the stock fan. The 3G alternator upgrade is a must have prerequisite before you do the MK VIII fan. You won’t have enough electrical power if you don’t do the 3G upgrade.



*1.) Pro-M has revised their website lately, but here's what I found for the MAF adapter flange.

http://performancepartsmall.com/detail.asp?id=224 - plastic adapter

http://performancepartsmall.com/detail.asp?id=223 - metal adapter

I got a metal one from Powered by Ford for $35 and tax. That was over a year ago.

Powered By Ford
1516 South Division Avenue
Orlando, FL 32805
Hours 0800-1800
Phone 407-843-3673
http://www.poweredbyford.com/
 
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dkhl said:
Anybody know what's the best bang for the $$$ if your starting to mod a completely stock car?

I know one of the top mods would be CAI.. other than that I would be at a loss..
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Forget the CAI (for now). The very first thing I would recommend doing is a set of rear gears. 3.73 gears. Then a cat-back exhaust.
 
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battery relocation was my first mod. 40$ free up alot of space. A/c delete kit was second. 50$ i love the space i guess
 
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So, to sum it up..

Gears
Shifter
Exhaust
CAI?

You guys got anymore? It's for another project mustang I'm thinking about doing. I'm just looking for the most bang for the $$$ right now.. and these mods should cost under $1000 each (I know turbo/supercharge has its points but I hardly call it a begginner's mod)
 

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look at my sig theese all were my first mods exept the 331 ive oned my car 6 months and drove it 4 or 5 times only
 
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