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WhiteCobra95 said:
I wouldn't recommend buying a MAF tuned for injectors, espeically anything larger than 24s if your ECU is calibrated for 19s. You need a MAF which is set to measure the estimated air mass flow rate for your engine, plus a margin of safety (+20% to 30%), and the flow vs. output voltage calibration sheet to go with it. Then you need a means of updating the MAF transfer function in your ECU along with the injector flow rates. This will solve a lot of the typical driveability problems people have when upgrading injectors and MAFs. MAF sensors with shifted flow curves to correct for the increased injector flow rates is a hack solution, and it becomes more un-workable the further you get away from the base injector size in your ECU. The best solution is to recalibrate the ECU with the correct data for the components installed. I hate to see you waste money on a questionable work-around when you've put so much time and attention into everything else that you've done with your car.
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It's been done successfully for 30 years.
When all parts are installed correctly and the injector size and maf are sized correctly for the combination there are no drivability issues.
 

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I've had bbk, ProM and lately have had great luck with Pmas https://www.pmas-maf.com/?make=138&...tegory=57&post_type=product&action=vpf-search
 

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WhiteCobra95 said:
I wouldn't recommend buying a MAF tuned for injectors, espeically anything larger than 24s if your ECU is calibrated for 19s. You need a MAF which is set to measure the estimated air mass flow rate for your engine, plus a margin of safety (+20% to 30%), and the flow vs. output voltage calibration sheet to go with it. Then you need a means of updating the MAF transfer function in your ECU along with the injector flow rates. This will solve a lot of the typical driveability problems people have when upgrading injectors and MAFs. MAF sensors with shifted flow curves to correct for the increased injector flow rates is a hack solution, and it becomes more un-workable the further you get away from the base injector size in your ECU. The best solution is to recalibrate the ECU with the correct data for the components installed. I hate to see you waste money on a questionable work-around when you've put so much time and attention into everything else that you've done with your car.
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Is that what I sound like talking about music theory and adjudicating performances? ;-)
After re-reading, there is likely some good advice. Where do you still find the services to recalibrate a stock ECU? Do you have the names and links to good tuners on these old computers? Is someone still doing the external chip thing?
 

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Maybe I just stick the 19s in and use the MAF I currently have (SN95 70mm). All I plan on doing is idling and drive up an down the street to work out bugs.

again, just to emphasis, I just want to make sure the engine runs and be able to do things like charge the AC, bleed the hydroboost and bleed the cooling system. I have no desire to do any tuning to the A9L as I’ll be sticking it on a shelf shortly after.

I can stick the 30s on when I go megasquirt. Then all I need is a MAF with known transfer functions, which to be honest I can get with the pro-m as they will send me a 30 point curve in which I can plug those values into megasquirt.
 
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7991LXnSHO said:
Is that what I sound like talking about music theory and adjudicating performances? ;-)
After re-reading, there is likely some good advice. Where do you still find the services to recalibrate a stock ECU? Do you have the names and links to good tuners on these old computers? Is someone still doing the external chip thing?
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Good question. I don't know of any tuners to recommend. Here are links to the electronics to do it yourself.

https://www.tweecer.com/

https://www.moates.net/
 
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7991LXnSHO said:
Is that what I sound like talking about music theory and adjudicating performances? ;-)
After re-reading, there is likely some good advice. Where do you still find the services to recalibrate a stock ECU? Do you have the names and links to good tuners on these old computers? Is someone still doing the external chip thing?
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Decipha @ efidynotuning.com tunes them with the Moates Quarterhorse. The Quarterhorse and TurnerPro is actually a powerful tuning solution for these cars and allows you to do a lot.
 
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a91what said:
I set my M112 blower project up with a maf on ms2, was easy to tune with. I am a big fan of a properly setup maf system on MS, I will be using maf\sd to tune my current project
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Works well on my setup, too.
 
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