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Best bang for buck: SC or heads?

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1fastsn95

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Which will give me more power: Good heads or a supercharger? If Supercharger which one? Motor is stock except full exhaust. Thanks guys!
 

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Which will give me more power: Good heads or a supercharger? If Supercharger which one? Motor is stock except full exhaust. Thanks guys!
 

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S/C
 

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well the supercharger will give you more horsepower but it will cost a lot more than the heads. If I were you I would get an h/c/i and prepare yourself for the blower in the future.
 

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depends on what heads your thinking about.....used GT-40's, used aluminum, new aluminum....what kind of $$ are you looking to spend right now
 

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get some tfs twisted wedge heads, as long as you already havea mimld cam, and a decent intake, its a proven 11 sec combo.
 

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A S/C on an otherwise stock engine is going to be sad compared to one w/ a full h/c/i combo. So do the heads first and the blower later.
 

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SC under the hood with chicks around will defintley get you that bang for the buck!

Pun intended.
 
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The S/C will give you more hp then doing the head swap.
 

poneypower89

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HP per Dollar wise.. you really can't beat a Blower.

however..

Your sentence *best bang for the buck* is up for "opinion" on whats worth more to people... in the end.. The HP/Dollar ratio will be best with a blower vs. just adding new heads.
 

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S/C.

But I'd go H/C/I first then once you get bored of that add the S/C.
 

bryce93lx

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umm the blower is by far easier to install less parts has more power, and if you find a deal on a used one can cost way less, remember when yo do heads you have to get a good cam and intake, throttle body, maf sensor, and don't forget other things like gaskets, and seleants that kan nickle and dime you to death as well as a new pump and injectors(s/c will require these as well) but with the sc you leave it 100% stock minus fuel mods and get good power, then you can uprage each part as money allow's i did h/c/i and i regret it if i had it to do over i would have bought a supercharger
 

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This all depends on what you are going to spend.

It depends on how much boost, type, and brand of the supercharger.

I would personally go with a trickflow h/c/i package (already put together). Do no expect 11's. It takes more than just a h/c/i package to get your car to touch 11's. Other things need to be addressed as well.

If you are getting a nice h/c/i package and get a s/c trim, I'm pretty confident the h/c/i would make more power. Now if you get more boost than that, it could go the other way.

Good Luck!
 

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First off, for the most part, when complete both cost nearly the same if you use new parts.
Second, regardless of what produces more power on a dyno, the H/C/I car will likely beat any SC car that has the boost set for reliability.
You see H/C/I only cars in the 11's, but most of the time SC only cars are mid high 12's.

And as i've said the last few times this subject has come up, a supercharger on a well used engine will blow gaskets out, where's if h/c/i will get 100% new gaskets obviously.
 

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Or turbo it and run 10's like Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords Project Hooligan Hot Rod
 
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I did GT40X heads, TFS Street Heat Intake, Crane 1.7s, FMS 65mm TB, C&L 73mm MAF, custom H-pipe, and 4.10s for about $2200 including labor. I bought all the stuff used, and paid to have the 4.10s installed.

Had I tried to put together a s/c combo for $2200, I may have been able to do it, but I'm not certain how the end product would have looked or felt.
 
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For best bang for the buck,lets brake it down.

Heads: will cost you about 1500$ for a set of heads, R/R's, gaskets. You can get about 40 hp on a set of heads on a stock motor.

1500/40=37.5$ per horse

Supercharger: A standard but not the cheepest ( s-trim 8lbs boost ) you can find for about 2400$ You can get about 80 to 100 hp on a stock s-trim.

2400/80=30$ per horse

Plus the supercharger is a true bolt on. just bolt on and go. The heads will include topend teardown and then bolt on.

If you have the cash for the supercharger now I would get it out of the way. Just buy a kit that I can grow into, and not out grow.
 

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71swing said:
For best bang for the buck,lets brake it down.

Heads: will cost you about 1500$ for a set of heads, R/R's, gaskets. You can get about 40 hp on a set of heads on a stock motor.

1500/40=37.5$ per horse

Supercharger: A standard but not the cheepest ( s-trim 8lbs boost ) you can find for about 2400$ You can get about 80 to 100 hp on a stock s-trim.

2400/80=30$ per horse

Plus the supercharger is a true bolt on. just bolt on and go. The heads will include topend teardown and then bolt on.

If you have the cash for the supercharger now I would get it out of the way. Just buy a kit that I can grow into, and not out grow.
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I'll break it down...

You can get a Trickflow h/c/i complete kit for $2200. That comes with heads, cam, intake, roller rockers, pushrods, all the gaskets you need, new head bolts.

You can tune a h/c/i yourself. Not a supercharger ($400 dollar tune on a dyno).

H/C/I rebuilds the top half of the engine and cleans it up.

Supercharger clutters the engine bay and makes it harder to do the h/c/i later.

Supercharger also runs off the engine, aka parasitic drag (so not the most efficient way to make power).

That is just my opinion...

Do supercharger later...not now
 

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There are a lot of good points in here, and I'm going with the h/c/i crowd. h/c/i will be cheaper, rebuilds the top end, more reliable, less junk in the engine bay so it's easier to work on, and make as much power as a middle of the range blower with reasonable boost. Aluminum heads will also take 50lbs off the front end of the car rather than add it.
 

bryce93lx

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JUNK in the engine bay, that is the lamest thing i have ever heard. and no you don't need a $400 dyno tune if you know a little and get the timing and fp right just like on a h/c/i and for the less mechanicly inclined s/c is easy to diy while the h/c/i with out alot of tools, torque wrenches, cherry pickers, place to work ect may have to be done by a shop. And again you can make power with forced induction with a totally stock set up, so say 2200 for a top end kit then a tb 250 and maf 250 and a cai to fit the tb 180, and so on and so on a sc makes the parts you have work better h/c/i makes them obsolite. then you can uprage everything as cash allows instead of all at once. Boost is the cure all
 
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