For a street driven car what would I benefit most from subframe connectors or rear control arms? I suppose both would be ideal so I guess which would you do first? Which one would you notice the biggest change in ride?
Yeah? Just did a lot of researching on control arms. They say for street car use uppers w rubber bushings but I haven't found many that have emSub frame connectors
say kurt, is it pretty tough to press bushings in?I would say control arms. Even if the car were brand new, I would say control arms make a bigger difference. However, since your car is really old now, there is a good chance that your stock control arm bushings have become really soft already. If you are looking for upper control arms with rubber bushings, I would just press new factory replacement bushings into your stock uppers. Steeda used to sell a "heavy duty" upper control arm. It was just a stock upper with a plate welded to the bottom to box it in and new bushings. The point is that they worked fine on all their race cars. If the stock control arm is good enough with poly bushings in it, it's certainly good enough with rubber ones.
Kurt
Yeah I read that too. But mine currently have over 300k miles on em.FWIW, I am still running stock UCAs, along with new MM LCAs, along with MM subframes. When I did my research, MM's website said for street application, no need to upgrade UCAs.
Very happy with the result, but I did both at the same time, so I can't tell you which is better to do first.
Replacing uppers, or even bushings, doesn't sound like it's worth the effort unless your bushings are toast.
For a street driven car what would I benefit most from subframe connectors or rear control arms? I suppose both would be ideal so I guess which would you do first? Which one would you notice the biggest change in ride?
"Perpetuate", good word usage. But yeah I believe if I'm going to do control arms I'm going to do both uppers and lowers if I can find a decent package deal. I mean before I had the motor rebuilt it had 300k miles on the clock and I think it'd be more trouble than what it's worth to replace the bushings in the uppers vs just buying new ones.Not here to perpetuate any myths, or to market MM. That said, I took MM's advice, and am still running a stock UCA with factory bushings. I did upgrade the LCAs. Rest of my suspension mods (admittedly rather mild) include Eibach springs and shocks/struts, and MM CC kit.
I've never driven a car with aftermarket UCA (or torque arm, for that matter, although the more I read about them the more intrigued I am), so I have nothing to compare to. When I did my mods, I recognized that if the performance improvement wasn't enough, I could easily add a UCA later. I was sufficiently pleased for my purposes (no track use, but some very aggressive road driving on the twisties). I guess the best comparison I can give is that I had been running the current setup for about 2 years when I spent a week in CA driving an 08 Vette vert, and was disappointed in that the handling wasn't noticeably better than my 95--to the point that I put all replacement plans on hold, and started shopping for a blower instead.
My 95 handles on par with my 13 with SVTPP. Your results may vary.