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Biggest decision for my car: Blower, or PI swap with nitrous?

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I am also think about doing the pi switch. Would it be better just to get the intake and heads porter and put a different cam, or the pi switch would just work out better? thanks
 

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SUPERCHARGE IT
 
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Darkhorse845 said:
I vote PI Headswap and 100 shot of Nitrous Express!
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Cheap if you can do the work yourself. What I don't like about Nitrous is you need to get it refilled.
 
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CanadaStang said:
Keep in mind, he has the non-PI heads
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KB has a kit for the non-pi heads. thought it added around 140 rwhp or so.
 
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americanjesus said:
I am also think about doing the pi switch. Would it be better just to get the intake and heads porter and put a different cam, or the pi switch would just work out better? thanks
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I don't have a non-pi car, but from what I've read, the intake is really the restriction above 4.5-5k on non-pi's.

You can pick up pi heads w/cams, and the pi-intake cheap. Probably the best bang for the buck if you doing it yourself.
 
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rustang04 said:
SUPERCHARGE IT
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Got a ride in a P1SC Mustang and was totally impressed. Man, that pulled hard. Had 3:73's in it that helped, but it was fast and was a 12.4 car at the strip with just nitto 555 drags on it.
 

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Why do these decisions have to be so hard....I would be doing the installation either way (with a little help from the neighbors, even though they are all chevy guys).
 

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like i always say, just buy a mach1 motor and swap it in
 

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Im just guessing, but thats probably over my budget
 

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tomustang said:
come on, i have stock FORD parts
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Mac 3in Catbacks
Foglight Rewire
K&N -Silencer
Energy Suspension End Links
Eibach Sportlines
KYBs S/S
Maximum Motorsports C/C Plates
FRPP 3.73's
2001 Park Brake Boot
Power Slot Rotors
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Ported Intake
Missing 4 cats
Hey, tomustang, I can't find part # for most of this stuff in my Ford parts catalogue. Do I just have out dated manual or something?
 
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2002BLGT

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PI intake swap from livernois , PI cams , and 125 NX wet kit ......the hell with changing the heads , its been proven over and over again the intakes the problem ........PI cams have more lift ......thats the route I would go and less labor also ......
 

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2002BLGT said:
PI intake swap from livernois , PI cams , and 125 NX wet kit ......the hell with changing the heads , its been proven over and over again the intakes the problem ........PI cams have more lift ......thats the route I would go and less labor also ......
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Yup, HP per $, that would be the cheapest way to go.
 

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Yeah, but the nice thing about the blower is that you've got it all the time, anytime. The nitrous is only with you as long as you remember to fill the bottle.
 
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2002BLGT

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well do a powerdyne supercharger or novi1000 or vortech S trim instead of the nitrous , the way I suggested doesnt affect the compression .....so supercharging would be fine ......
 
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2002BLGT said:
well do a powerdyne supercharger or novi1000 or vortech S trim instead of the nitrous , the way I suggested doesnt affect the compression .....so supercharging would be fine ......
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Yes a Vortech T trim would be awesome! But,horsepower per dollar
nitrous is the way to go! A NX 100 shot with all the saftey goodies
and a good tune you will be fine.Good luck with whatever you end
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Swap on some ported PI heads with VT stage 2 cams.
 

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CanadaStang said:
can't find part # for most of this stuff in my Ford parts catalogue. Do I just have out dated manual or something?
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damn garage
uh uh.. stock heads stock h-pipe
 

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damn garage
uh uh.. stock heads stock h-pipe
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MyEarsHurt said:
Well, I always thought no way I am getting a supercharger, just too expensive, I will just do the PI headswap instead and get some nice cams to go with it. Well now I am in a pickle.

After doing the math, I figure at least $1700 for PI heads, intake, gaskets, and a mild set of comp cams. Then down the road I could add a nitrous kit for like 600-700, well thats close to 2500 bucks total. Then I am sure there will be little things, cause projects like this always cost more than you anticipate them to cost.

The alternative, a much quicker installation, a vortech s trim kit, for like $3100.

To tell you the truth, I have no idea which one would make more power! I mean, I guess with the nitrous, that would obviously make more power, but if I dont spray, then the supercharger would make more power.

I am in a pickle, and I need help deciding where to spend my money. I will probably wait until after xmas to purchase anything because I am still saving, but the stang is in storage now, and I will be doing one of these installations by the time the snow melts.

Any and all opinions appreciated cause I am about to drop a fat load of cash on this...[/QUOTE

I went the PI head route with mine as I wanted to keep the reliability and fuel mileage of the stock engine, so I can take it on holidays or whatever,I'd be a little nervous about taking a S/C Stang on a 3000 mile trip to the coast.[S/C guys may argue otherwise, but thats what I was thinking about when I made my choice] If it wasn't for that, I would have went the S/C route. I guess it would depend on what you plan on using the car for.
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Vortech kit for $3100? Sounds awefully incomplete to me. Supercharging also creates a whole new money pit. It's so easy to make more power, just turn up the boost. But then you need to have a built bottom end, blah blah blah......
 
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