Block identification-what year is my 302?

grndscrpr03 · Dec 15, 2005

Ok I recently bought a '90 LX that was supposed to have a 92 engine and transmission. However now after stripping the block down and looking at the transmission tag I have my doubts. The tranny tag code is 1352-184 and when I looked that up it says it came from a 1988 Ford Sierra 2.0 L4 Turbo. So now I have my doubts about the block as well. I haven't found anywhere good on the web that explains the casting numbers for these blocks so I am looking to you guys for a little help. The only numbers I found on the block were:
24
E6SE
BA

Now some sites I have been to says it could be a 91-93 block, other sites I have been to points more like it came from a 86 thunderbird. Any help would be much appreciated, thanks.

Dark Knight · Dec 15, 2005

E6 is 1986

grndscrpr03 · Dec 15, 2005

ok so what are the differences, if any, between the '86 blocks and the newer(say 89-93) blocks?
I am going to build a complete new motor from just a bare block and was hoping to use this one for it.

BlackGT89 · Dec 15, 2005

This link should be helpful: http://www.classicmustang.com/decoding_part_numbers.htm

grndscrpr03 · Dec 15, 2005

yeah that was the site I went by and thought it might be from a '86 thunderbird. So anyone know if there is any differences in the blocks? Should I continue to go ahead and build this one or look for another block? Thanks again

tjm73 · Dec 15, 2005

As long as it's a roller cam block there is no signifcant differance as far as I know of or have heard of.

BlackGT89 · Dec 15, 2005

Ooops, well so much for that link. However, the writer on that website did say this,

"Just because a part was originally made for a Falcon doesn't mean the part came off of a Falcon. Many Mustang parts were originally designed for the Falcon and carry a Falcon casting number. Ford is famous for using parts designed for one car on a variety of models."

So that doesn't necessarily mean the block came out of a T-Bird. I have a block at home that has the T-Bird number as well, but it has GT-40 heads and an oil cooler where the oil filter goes. But I don't know all the history on this engine and I haven't dug into it yet. As far as the other numbers showing the tranny came from a 2.0 litre turbo Sierra, I have no explanation for at all. Hopefully a parts guru will step in and help.

tjm73 · Dec 15, 2005

grndscrpr03 said:
The tranny tag code is 1352-184 and when I looked that up it says it came from a 1988 Ford Sierra 2.0 L4 Turbo.

Doyou mean Merkur XR4Ti? The 2.0 Sierra was never sold in the USA. The Merkur XR4Ti was basically the same car but it had the 2.3 turbo from the T-Bird/SVO and if it was one of those with an automatic it would have been a A4LD (I think that's the name).

I would put much stock in the results you got breaking down your numbers.

grndscrpr03 · Dec 15, 2005

I went to www.5speeds.com and put in the 1352-184 code from the tranny tag and it said a 88 Sierra. I put in the code from the other tranny that I have that I know is the original one out of my '90 GT and it was right.

Also I got the casting number off of the motor that is in the '90GT(also known to be original) and according to the site above it would be a '87 block for a truck????? The code is E7TE, so know I am really confused.

tjm73 · Dec 15, 2005

That doesn't change that the Sierra was never sold in North America. So I still don't trust that data.

As far as beign a truck block. Yes and no.

E7TE is just an engineering number. E = 80's era (F = 90's), 7 mean it's 87, TE means truck. But that does not mean that engine came out of a truck. It only means that the part was engineered by the truck division. E7TE part swere used in other vehicle besdies trucks.

What is the number of the '86 block?

I believe that the E7TE engineering revision was the last major revesion of the 302 block before it went out of service.

grndscrpr03 · Dec 15, 2005

the number on the other block is E6SE

tjm73 · Dec 15, 2005

grndscrpr03 said:
the number on the other block is E6SE

That's definitly an '86 engine.

Another reason I don't trust that Sierra info is the 2.0 and the 2.3 have a totally different bellhousing bolt pattern. The trannies can not physically interchange between L4 and Windsor V8.

Bad92GT · Dec 15, 2005

ford will continually use castings on other cars.. i have a E6 intake from a completely diff car.. if they changed the number every year to match the name that mean my dad would have billions of parts.. stock intake on a 86-93 is the same

grndscrpr03 · Dec 15, 2005

Ok after reading a little more on several websites I am starting to understand these numbers a little more I think. The E6SE and E7SE are the numbers for the casting used to make certain parts, but the actual date that part was manufactured is identified by a small plate somewhere on the part. Now the block in my '90 GT has a plate below the E7SE code and it says 9K17. So you take the 'E', meaning '80s then the 9 in the date code meaning it was manufactured in '89. The 'K' stands for November, then the 17 is the 17th day of the month. So that block was manufactured Nov 17th, 1989 which explains why it is in a '90 car.

Now to go check to see if the other block has this date code plate on it or not.

tjm73 · Dec 15, 2005

TheChevyEater said:
....stock intake on a 86-93 is the same

In '87, I think they changed the upper intake a little. Could be wrong.

tjm73 · Dec 15, 2005

grndscrpr03 said:
Ok after reading a little more on several websites I am starting to understand these numbers a little more I think. The E6SE and E7SE are the numbers for the casting used to make certain parts, but the actual date that part was manufactured is identified by a small plate somewhere on the part. Now the block in my '90 GT has a plate below the E7SE code and it says 9K17. So you take the 'E', meaning '80s then the 9 in the date code meaning it was manufactured in '89. The 'K' stands for November, then the 17 is the 17th day of the month. So that block was manufactured Nov 17th, 1989 which explains why it is in a '90 car.

More or less you've got it.

Paul Perreca · Dec 15, 2005

my block that is out of an 89 says E7TE - go figure

grndscrpr03 · Dec 15, 2005

ok well the date code on the '86 block is 6D16 so I got lied to when I bought the car.

Now is this still going to be a good block to use for my new motor or will a newer block be better?

tjm73 · Dec 15, 2005

grndscrpr03 said:
ok well the date code on the '86 block is 6D16 so I got lied to when I bought the car.

Now is this still going to be a good block to use for my new motor or will a newer block be better?

Refer to post #6.

Also this member http://forums.stangnet.com/member.php?u=14928 can tell you more about the engine you have. He knows much stuff.

grndscrpr03 · Dec 15, 2005

Ok now can anyone tell me, or find out any more information on this transmission? Here is everything that is on the tag:
E9ZR-7008-AA REP AU
13-52-184 27176K1492

Again thanks to everyone, this was driving me nuts!!!

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