Bolt in or weld in?

steel1212 · May 26, 2006

Which subframe connectors from ce should I get? I'll probably weld them in either way but was wondering if the bolt ins would do their job until I got around to doing it, like this winter?

dennis112 · May 26, 2006

steel1212 said:
I'll probably weld them in either way but was wondering if the bolt ins would do their job until I got around to doing it, like this winter?

I assume you are talking subframe connectors?

Buy the bolt in ones and plan on welding them in. Supposedly the bolt in ones have more support so don't even consider the weld ons.

steel1212 · May 26, 2006

yeah, I must have been editing while you where typing lol. Thanks

302 coupe · May 26, 2006

get the bolt ins, then weld thme when you get the time. The CE weld-ins require some cutting to the floors, too much trouble.

AdamInChains · May 26, 2006

I just got the weld in ones from Maier Racing. The round tubular steel ones are supossed to be a bit stronger than the square steel i hear. A shop is installing those along with my 620 springs as we speak, so ill see how it goes.

brianj5600 · May 26, 2006

302 coupe said:
...The CE weld-ins require some cutting to the floors...

As in through the floor connecters? Where do you have to cut?

Cannoball888 · May 26, 2006

I think he meant cutting the floor pans to make them shallower so the subframe connectors will clear.

steel1212 · May 27, 2006

love the sig!

I ordered the bolt in ones, and cal tracs yesterday. Hopefully they will be here in enough time for me to go to the track this friday and hopefully break into the 12s NA!

thehueypilot · May 27, 2006

Either way I would weld them as soon as possible and before you go to the track. The bolts/sheet metal won't hold much (too much stress) when they are concentrated in such a small area.

bnickel · May 27, 2006

the main reason not to get the CE weld in connectors is that you have to relocate the spring perches inboard almost 2 inches.

brianj5600 · May 27, 2006

I don't know if you have drill holes in the sub-frames for the bolts, but I would not drill. I would plug weld where the bolt holes should be drilled.

Jester67 · May 27, 2006

I like the maier subs IMHO they are the best on the market as they have more contact area check em out

steel1212 · May 28, 2006

Me and a buddy just put in the bolt in ones. I will eventually weld them up. Yeah the maier ones are nice and I know you get what you pay for but 300 bucks for sub frames was more than I wanted to pay and I think the CE ones will be fine for my application.

On a side note did anybody have to drill the rear hole that is on the bottom of the subframe? The instructions said to screw the bolt in but I had no hold so we drilled and tapped one.

Pbum5 · May 28, 2006

I have CE Bolt In Connectors. They are bolted and welded in.
They are the best bang for buck when it comes to sub frame connectors.

They also have great clearance.

SHIFTY101EASY · May 29, 2006

AdamInChains said:
I just got the weld in ones from Maier Racing. The round tubular steel ones are supossed to be a bit stronger than the square steel i hear. A shop is installing those along with my 620 springs as we speak, so ill see how it goes.

how much is it costing to get the springs in there?

AdamInChains · May 31, 2006

SHIFTY101EASY said:
how much is it costing to get the springs in there?

They charged me $400 for the installation of the 620 springs, front alignment, front bilstein shocks, rear alignment, and welding in my maier subframe connectors. I've been going to this same shop for years and they always do very good quality work. Car only sits 1/8" lower with the new springs. Guess i had a lot of sag in the original springs.

bnickel · May 31, 2006

AdamInChains said:
They charged me $400 for the installation of the 620 springs, front alignment, front bilstein shocks, rear alignment, and welding in my maier subframe connectors. I've been going to this same shop for years and they always do very good quality work. Car only sits 1/8" lower with the new springs. Guess i had a lot of sag in the original springs.

wow, that sure seems high for what they did. i mean the hardest part is welding in the sub's and even that isn't all that difficult. i would think probably half that would be about right, maybe 250-300 but 400 bones is awfully high.

LMan · Jun 1, 2006

AdamInChains said:
They charged me $400 for the installation of the 620 springs, front alignment, front bilstein shocks, rear alignment, and welding in my maier subframe connectors. I've been going to this same shop for years and they always do very good quality work. Car only sits 1/8" lower with the new springs. Guess i had a lot of sag in the original springs.

...I have got to find another line of work

LMan · Jun 1, 2006

Pbum5 said:
I have CE Bolt In Connectors. They are bolted and welded in.
They are the best bang for buck when it comes to sub frame connectors.

They also have great clearance.

bnickel · Jun 1, 2006

LMan said:
...I have got to find another line of work

yeah exactly, me too.

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