Brake Upgrade on 95 GTS

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I want to put lighter brakes on the rig and upgrade the braking power. What do you recommend?

 

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AFAIK, the only way to improve the brakes AND make them lighter is by using regular GT brakes off a 99 or newer. If you want significant braking improvement, your best bet is Cobra brakes, but they weigh a noticable amount more than the stock GT brakes do.

Dave

 

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Dave is right. A set of PBR dual piston calipers from a 99-newer V6/GT mustang will drop around 16lbs off the nose of your car. We have no lightweight altenatives for the rear except for the offerings from baer and the like.

 

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is weight that much of a dertermining factor on brakes? i was looking into the Alcon 4-piston set w/ 2-piston Baer rears. i understand that they have some weight to them, but does it really matter that much for the stopping power that they provide?

 

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ok, say someone is parting out a 99 GT and I want to do the brake upgrade and save 16 pounds...what all do I need to get from them?

 

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Civiceater- you need the calipers, brackets, and banjo bolts (primarily the pass side). You could just grab the entire front brake line from the 99-newer car and use it as well instead of using just the banjo bolts. New pads and rotors are a good idea too.

Prokiller- it all depends. For me, I always wanted cobra front brakes until I saw the problems with wheel selection to clear them. Contrary to popular belief, all 17" or greater wheels will NOT clear the cobra front brakes due to caliper clearance issues in addition to the rotor diameter. So for someone like me looking to lose weight and stop better, the PBR setup from a 99-newer GT is a great compromise, its price can't be beat either.

 

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Hey guys, thanks for the input. It sounds like good advice to me. I'll let you know when I get those brakes.

 

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I always thought it would be cool to do a big brake kit so someday I could road race it. Keep up the good work!

 

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Killercanary
I have 18" ROH rims on, You said that the cobra 13" brakes will not fit? I'm double checking co'z I'm heading that route soon.

 

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They may clear, but there exist a common misconception that all you need for bigger brakes is a wheel larger than 17" which is not the case, you must check for caliper overhang clearance.

 

hillie16

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I went with the Bullitt upgrade, looks great, feels like a different car.

 

Eric94GTvert

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ProKiller said:

is weight that much of a dertermining factor on brakes? i was looking into the Alcon 4-piston set w/ 2-piston Baer rears. i understand that they have some weight to them, but does it really matter that much for the stopping power that they provide?

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It's not the actual weight that helps but the mass of the rotor. The bigger the rotor, the more mass, and therefore more heat dissipation ability it has. The only real job of the brakes is to take momentum energy and turn it into heat energy through friction. The bigger, heavier rotor just works better because it can store more heat. All the 13 "+ brake AL calipers are a lot lighter than our stockers but the rotors are huge in comparison. The cobra/bullitt upgrade weighs ~ 60 lbs or so.
It's my opinion (not worth much) that unless it's an all out drag car, weight shouldn't be a factor when it comes to a brake upgrade. Those few extra pounds can save your life on the street.

 

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I agree. Tires and brakes are the two things I refuse to compromise on. I'm lookin at some good cobras or something of that effect soon. For now, I'm using my stock GT brakes with EBC Greenstuff pads which in itself dramatically improved my braking power.

 

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I am also in dire need of a brake upgrade but I have no idea where to start. Is there a kit that comes with everything I need so I can just bolt them on?

 

jmuva44

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swingline said:

I am also in dire need of a brake upgrade but I have no idea where to start. Is there a kit that comes with everything I need so I can just bolt them on?

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Check out: Speed Concepts

 

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I just checked out the speed concepts website, those are some great prices, plus I can get the Cobra kit with the Red Calipers! Anyway, just one question, it says the slotted/drilled rotors are not recommended for track use, why is this?

 

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red94fiveo said:

I just checked out the speed concepts website, those are some great prices, plus I can get the Cobra kit with the Red Calipers! Anyway, just one question, it says the slotted/drilled rotors are not recommended for track use, why is this?

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I'm not an expert, but basically, they're not as reliable as a regular rotor. Also due to the excecessive amount of use seen while racing, they wouldn't last nearly as long. Read this thread for more info. and links. http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=394920&highlight=cross+drilled+brakes

 

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What is the difference between the kits at the top of the page and the ones at the bottom?

 

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What is the difference between the cobra upgrade and the bullit upgrade? Whereas the cobra upgrade wont work under 17's, would the bullit? I'd like to know this because i will be upgrading my brakes come summer.

 

hillie16

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Peel Away said:

What is the difference between the cobra upgrade and the bullit upgrade? Whereas the cobra upgrade wont work under 17's, would the bullit? I'd like to know this because i will be upgrading my brakes come summer.

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The Cobra /Bullitt upgrade is the same except for Caliper color, Cobra is Black with "COBRA" in white, Bullitt is orange with running pony logo in white, although I ordered mine in blue instead of orange.