Broke the T-5

90mustangGT

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After over 14 years and 150K miles and who know's how much abuse, and less than two months after installing a Spec III clutch, I broke it. I noticed what felt like driveshaft vibration about a week ago after a powershift, then it got worse, then it made this sound like the driveshaft was hitting the muffler, so I decided to take it to work, didn't make it. It really got bad especailly in 2nd and 5th gear, and on the way I dropped the clutch into second gear a little too hard and hard a pop and what followed sounded like a bag of lug nuts in the blender.

If the clutch depressed it's silent, but even in neutral if you let the clutch in it grinds like hell. I pulled the tranny out and I can't turn the input shaft by hand while in neutral, I could before. I'm thinking it's a broken input shaft and the tech I work with said we will take it apart and see if it can easily be fixed. If not it's a tremec or a G-force T-5.

 

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That sucks. How about a T56?

 

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cardudeusa said:

That sucks. How about a T56?

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That would be great, if I had the money.

 

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bucket of lug nuts in the blender, that's funny.

It's the spec stage 3 that finished off your tranny, those things are tranny killers. You've probably got a t5 case full of nothing but metal shavings, with that spec three stage, i wouldn't go with another stock t5, or the same thing's gonna happen.

 

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you need some beefier trans gears.

 

90mustangGT

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I know I need beefier gears. I doubt it's just a input shaft, more like the main or counter shaft. Do you have to get a different bell housing for a Tremec 3550, or is that just the TKO?

I'm looking at getting a G-Force T5 kit with the dog-rings instead of synros. $950 for the whole kit, just have to build it yourself. I think I can do it.

 

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the tko and 3550 both get a different bell, though I believe the 3550 is discontinued now.

Find a four eyed guy with an old srod bell, they'll work and it'll save you $200

 

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This sounds so familiar...It happened to me in May and with the mileage you have I bet your pilot bearing gave up and caused the input shaft to walk....

But you get praise for 14 years on a stock T-5

 

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kinda off subject and might put in it's own post, but I have a 14 year old t-5 with 120k on it. In second gear when I get up to 5k rpms I get a really LOUD WHINE, is it heading out???? going to need a rebuild????

 

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i have a fear ill be making a post like this soon..

 

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LQQIN4COUPE: Pilot berring was replaced when the Spec III clutch was replaced. I could see how that could happen but if you felt how hard a Spec III grabs you would know how it happened. Consideing the hell I put that tranny through, it did quite well. I've been powershifting it regulary for about two years, besides that giving it all the abuse it could take. I guess after the Drag Radials, then the new clutch, then UCA and LCA's, it just couldn't take it anymore.

tbadair: I noticed mine made more noise as it got older. I don't think you really need to worry.

 

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That is just how my T-5 blew apart!
SPEC stg 3, grenaded 2nd, only mine was in the rain.
The counter shaft had no teeth on it for second gear. Very cool,.... well not really.

I went with the GForce, and am very happy with it. This thing seems to love powershifts! But you will have to get a 26 spline clutch disc. I got what SPEC calls a 2/3 hybrid disc. It has the stg 3 pucks on one side, and the stg 2 kevlar on the other. Plus it still claims the same holding power, just a softer engagement. And it retains the stg 3 pressure plate you already have. But, the disc will cost you more money. Probably about $180-200.
And from what I heard, this is the clutch from SPEC that GForce recommends for the tranny.

Ohh, and the GForce is noisy, whines is 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. But sounds cool anyway.

 

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That is just how my T-5 blew apart!
SPEC stg 3, grenaded 2nd, only mine was in the rain.
The counter shaft had no teeth on it for second gear. Very cool,.... well not really.

I went with the GForce, and am very happy with it. This thing seems to love powershifts! But you will have to get a 26 spline clutch disc. I got what SPEC calls a 2/3 hybrid disc. It has the stg 3 pucks on one side, and the stg 2 kevlar on the other. Plus it still claims the same holding power, just a softer engagement. And it retains the stg 3 pressure plate you already have. But, the disc will cost you more money. Probably about $180-200.
And from what I heard, this is the clutch from SPEC that GForce recommends for the tranny.

Ohh, and the GForce is noisy, whines is 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. But sounds cool anyway.

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Thanks for the info on the G-Force. I think that is the rought I want to go.

 

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kewl, thanks for the help sorry to take away from your post

 

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You'll need a new bell for any tremec. The 3550 and regular tko are discontinued. Now they are tko 500 and tko 600. 500 has a 10 spline with a 26 spline option and 600 is standard with the 26 spline. 500 has better gear ratio's. I just bought a used low mileage TKO and pro 50 shifter from a dude on here for a nice price. I saved a good $600. I like the G force idea, just not the price if done right all said and done.

 

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how much power can the G-force handle?I want to put a super charger on my beast pretty soon and my tranny is probably gonna go out soon after and maybe my bottom end. but how much does it cost and where can you get it?

 

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bgjohnson said:

how much power can the G-force handle? but how much does it cost and where can you get it?

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and you can use any regular t-5 shifter right?

 

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Same thing happened to me after I did a clutch job. About 3 day's later I lost the tranny I was so pissed. I rebuilt my tranny and its working good for now. But I'm saving up for a Tremec 600RR. Kinda expensive but I like the way 5th gear looks.

 

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G-force claims 500ft/lbs of Tq. And yes you can still use your stock shifter. Plus you don't lose the HP like you would when switching to Tremec. I think Tremecs take up something like 10-20 HP.

 

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TrophyHead said:

G-force claims 500ft/lbs of Tq. And yes you can still use your stock shifter. Plus you don't lose the HP like you would when switching to Tremec. I think Tremecs take up something like 10-20 HP.

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Nope, not even close Ask killercanary on here how much he made when swapping to a tko from a t5. I'll give you a clue, it was the same as his t5 dyno My tko should be here next week hopefully.