Building up a carbed 2.3 turbo

[chaka]

I have the complete engine. The block is going to need the ridge reamed, but once this is performed do you think a hone is needed? I can see the original cross hatching. Plan on installing some dished forged pistons and rods from an 88 TC to lower compression. What tolerances should I have with the forged pistons? Rings?

Going to put a new carb on it (size? engine will be for a street driven car with twisties in mind).Head will be Ported and polished. Any suggestions for head gasket, rings, bearings, etc..?

Plan on water/alk injection later on down the road to cool intake since intercooler is out of the question.

Any information at all would be appreciated.

Anybody know where I can pick up the crossunder tube that supplies the turbo??

 

[Anlushac11]

I would rebuild the motor to stock EFI turbo specs. Factory parts or good after market stuff (Michigan 77 bearings, high end turbo head gasket, ARP rod and main bolts)

Whether you need to hone or not depends on piston to cylinder wall clearance. Again on tolerances buy a manual and go with teh factory specs. The factory turbo motors are very durable so i would stay with that setup, hard to improve on perfection.

Along with your water/methanol injection I would install a cool can. A cool can is about size of a medium coffee can with a fuel line entering and coiled around inside. The point of a cool can is to refrigerate the fuel. Spraying cold fuel into the intake will have the same effect as water/methanol by removing heat from the intake air as the fuel/water/methanol goes through the phase change from liquid to a gas. In fact there has been some complaints that the water/methanol erodes the intake impeller blade so I would try the cool can first.

Also the stock carb was a Holley Weber 5200. The carb does not need special modifications to work on a draw through but in a old magazine artice I had they upped the primay jets by one size and I think they bumped the secondaries by either 2 or 3 sizes.

Your probably going to have to have a custom mandrel bent crossunder tube, then I highly recommend taking it and having it Jet hot coated tfor thermal retention. By keeping the heat in the pipe you keep the exhaust pressure up which helps the turbo spool faster.

And a high flow exhaust is a must with a turbo. 3" would be best but 2.5" is still good.(Price jump between 2.5" and 3" is significant to me). Larger exhaust helps turbo flow better and reduces back pressure and will also help turbo spool up faster.

Cold air induction will help also. The factory setup is functional at best. I was going to adapt a EFI CAI setup and use a carb bonnnet and run a homemade tube between the two.

The carb turbo 2.3L responds to the same mods as a EFI turbo 2.3L. It likes ported heads and turbo cams as much as anyone else. If you have a stock slider cam in the head pull it and install a Ranger roller and set it at 4 degrees retarded. If you have the money you might see about getting the exhaust manifold ported. Tubular headers dont like turbos and have a tendancy to leak.

The M80 and M81 Maclaren Mustangs used a 2.25" high flow single exhaust and cranked the boost from 7lbs up to 11lbs. The MacLarens were rated at 175hp at teh crank. The 84 Mustang SVO was rated at 175hp. With the bigger exhaust and cool can or water injection and the lower compression of the EFI motor you should be able to get close to 14-16 lbs of boost. I would expect the motor with no other mods be able to hit 190-200hp. Now your in the SVO territory. With ported head and retarded Ranger cam and CAI you should be getting close to 230-240hp. Those are my guesstimates, user performance may vary.

Yes the EFI motors would make more power and depending on your skill level converting to the EFI turbo motor might be easy or a nightmare. It sure aint a no-brainer. And if he already has a carb turbo then I say you work with what you have.

Good Luck.

 

[chaka]

Well the engine is just sitting there begging to be used. And I will hopefully be putting it in a Mustang II.

Thanks

 

[a351Must2]

In my opinion, it's easier to do the EFI turbo swap in a Mustang II than it is to even think about trying to tune a carbed turbo.

 

[turbostang79]

I just ordered the Holley 500cfm (2300 series) carb, restrictor kit, air cleaner and adapter plate to install it.
It should be a big difference from the stock carb, and should eliminate the irritating 'lag' you have with the stock carbed turbo's.
(turboford is a great technical resource, also for carbed turbo's)

Too bad I have to wait 4-6 weeks before my parts arrive

As for the cross pipe, if you're going for the water injection and bigger carb, I'ed order a header to let the engine 'breathe' and make a custom downpipe to make the job complete.