C-4 shift linkage

D.Hearne · Aug 17, 2007

brianj5600 said:
D.Hearne, all C5's start with E2. They came in case or pan fills. The bellhousings are deeper to make room for the thicker lockup TC. I have heard of some that do not have lockup TC that use E2 cases, but that would be a C4. The only thing that makes a C5 is the VB, input shaft, lock TC and bell housing. E2 cases have better oiling, but everthing interchanges with a C4..

Whatever. You can keep on believing only the 80's C5 was the only one, that's you choice, but the fact still remains that the 70's pan fill transmission was also considered a C5 by Ford and many others.

brianj5600 · Aug 17, 2007

Here is an explantion of how panfills have been called C5's. http://mmerlinn.tripod.com/trans/fdc4f/fbbfdc4f.htm#nom I have never seen a catalog that listed a C5 older than 1982. I have 2 transmission manuals, ATSG and Haynes, and both list C5's from 1982-1986.

D.Hearne · Aug 17, 2007

Seems to me if you were trying to win your case and point of view, that article is the last thing you'd want to introduce as evidence. I think you just sank your own ship, since the older C5 was around and in production longer than the "new" C5.

brianj5600 · Aug 17, 2007

Did you read this part?
64-83 (now designated "C4" by Ford)
Case fill {C4 to C9, D0 to D9, & E1SP)
Pan fill {C5 to C9, D0 to D9}
82-86 (now designated "C5" by Ford)
Case fill {E2AP only)
Pan fill {E2TP only}
It clearly states "now designated". 25 years ago you would have been been right.

D.Hearne · Aug 18, 2007

"Now designated" doesn't change history. It's like saying although we won WWII, it's now considered to be that we actually lost it. It's like changing the rules in the middle of the game. I don't play like that.

brianj5600 · Aug 18, 2007

D.Hearne said:
It's like changing the rules in the middle of the game. I don't play like that.

Unfortunately, you don't make the rules, and neither do I. If I need parts I play by their rules. Otherwise I could end up with the wrong parts.

D.Hearne · Aug 18, 2007

But one company calls a part one thing and another calls it something else. That doesn't change what the part is. The other day 65fastbackresto was looking for a "Engine Block Plate" for his C4 trans. He tried a search as did I in Mustangs Unlimited's website and came up empty handed. I dug up an old catalog of theirs and looked it right up, turns out they called it a "Bell Housing Spacer Plate" and when I went back and put in the part number, it came right up. Still the same part. You are nitpicking details here. It may be called a C4 some places and C5 else where, but it still is what it is. The facts still point to, two different C-4 variations that were called C5's elsewhere.

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