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C4 tranny to a 5 spd, i need help!

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  • Start date Start date Sep 12, 2004
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69Fastback-22

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Hey all, ok i currently have a 69 fastback with the C4 tranny im getting a new engine

(http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=3791)

im woundering what type of conversion kits if any i need and if there is a website thatmight have all this information.

Its my first tranny swap so I am not that knowledgeable about the whole thing so any information would be very helpful

Thanks for any posts
 
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Most I can do is give you this URL:
http://www.moderndriveline.com/Technical_Bits/automatics.htm

I think someone might have posted it here once upon a time, but I saved it for when I eventually do the Swap...
 

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Ok, so your going to be using a late-model engine with the 50oz balancer, correct?

And I take it your talking about the T-5 transmission also.
You will need a cossmember. Find one here.
http://www.ronmorrisperformance.com/03clutch/index.html
Or here.
http://www.safepay.net/cgi-bin/shop...ategory=crossmembers&merchant=moderndriveline

You will need a clutch cable found here.
http://www.safepay.net/cgi-bin/shop/cart.cgi?db=mddata.txt&category=cable&merchant=moderndriveline

You will have to get the T-5 tranny yolk, and your driveshaft may need shortened, but that's something you will have to figure out yourself.

If you want to use your speedometer you will need a speedo cable to make the connection from the vehicle speed sensor to your speedometer, found here.
http://www.ronmorrisperformance.com/05spec/index.html

I think that about does it.
 

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I did nearly the same swap in my 65, including the later motor...

My T5 Swap Tech Pages
 
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Wow thanks for the feedback, its quite informative, im sure this will make the swap much much easier, thanks again you guys rock!
 
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which pressure plate am i going to need to use?
 

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Don't forget that you'll need a clutch pedal assembly as well...

Might be able to find them on ebay.
 
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yeah, gotta find one of those, but what about a pressure plate? im not very knowledgable about manual transmissions, but i know a pressure plate, right?
 
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*correction/bump* "but i know i need a pressure plate, right? which one will i need?
 
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Well, the GT-40 engine in the link you posted comes with a 50 oz flywheel drilled for a 10-1/2" clutch with a diaphragm pressure plate.

Click on the "parts instruction sheet" in the link and it tells you about the 50 oz flywheel and the clutch needed as well as the included 50 oz damper, etc.

Oh, you didn't ask, but watch out for aftermarket shifters on a T5. I had to beat out my shifter opening some installing a B&M Pro clone in my '68. I also had to take the shifter apart to install it too! The stock T5 shifter just barely fit without any mods to the shifter opening. YMMV

Randall

p.s. A clutch "set" should include the clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing, pilot bearing, and a clutch alignment tool as well.
 
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ok cool, thanks! I guess i missed that part
 
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With the New T5Z trannsmission, am I going to need to get a new bell housing? (coming from C4)
 
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Yes, you have to get either a T5 bellhousing or a toploader bellhousing to be used with an adapter. Go back up in the posts and take a look at the Moderndriveline link. Good info there in the FAQs.
 
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