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Where is it located? According to the owners manual it says it by the passenger side wiper cowl. Im thinking that the wiper cowl comes apart and the filter is there. Any one replace theres yet and if so how and where is it located?
 

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Cabin Filter

Recently changed mine in my '06 GT 'vert. It's pretty easy. Open the hood, go to pass. side. I think there were a couple of those funky plastic fasteners you pull the center pin up and the fastener can then be pulled out. the cowl on the pass. side can then be "coaxed" out-carefully because the far end (by the pass side fender) kind of is a pain. Just keep playing with it and it will come out. Once it is out, reach down and the filter is in kind of a frame. pull the frame thingy fwd and up and it should come right out. Change out the paper filter element and reverse the steps to put it back together. the cowl panel kind of "joins" with the driver side cowl panel, once it does all the screw holes will line up. Just take your time , ain't no thang!
 
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Yes Sir

jaackal said:
Where is it located? According to the owners manual it says it by the passenger side wiper cowl. Im thinking that the wiper cowl comes apart and the filter is there. Any one replace theres yet and if so how and where is it located?
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Right behind the battery under the wiper cowl remove the two cheap screws and there holders. Or just pop the whole thing "holder and screw" out from the bottom.
You will be able to raise the cowl enough to see it in a plastic holder. it pops out from the top toward you, then lift it out.
 

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I was told that our cars didn't have cabin air filtration. Maybe I was told wrong, or it just wasn't a feature in 2005?
 

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mine is a 2005...
 
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wow bigcat! how many miles before your filter looked that bad??
 
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thanks that helped out alot
 

bigcat

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that was 20,000 miles. i hardly run the air, so those that use the climate controls more often probably need it changed sooner. i was very suprised to see it that bad!
 
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Thanks for the info.
 
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thats outta control, 20k miles and not using the a/c or heat that often
 
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I changed mine out at 9000 mi. and it was pretty dirty. But, I live out in the boonies of eastern Washington State. We are not the Evergreen part of the state. The east side is a desert and when the wind blows, it blows around a lot of dust.
 
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bigcat said:
that was 20,000 miles. i hardly run the air, so those that use the climate controls more often probably need it changed sooner. i was very suprised to see it that bad!
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I changed mine at about 20k as well and it looked just as bad, and I use the AC all te time
 

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What did the filter run you guys?
 

bigcat

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mine was about $20 from ford.
 

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You know I always wondered how our a/c and heating climate control system operated without the cabin air filter in the "old days?" Where did the dust and pollen collect...or did it? I see this as simply another way for the dealer to get more money out of the consumer. It's funny how the NON cabin air filter cars of yesteryear with thousands of miles on them never had anything clog up in the climate control system...hmmmmm...what a scam.

I'll bet that if you remove the cabin air filter and leave it out...the system will work fine (so what...a little pollen and dust never hurt anybody).

P.S. From what I've heard...the dealer will charge you about $65 to replace the cabin air filter.
 
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Mark, a lot depends on where you live. Virginia Beach might be fine, but out here in the eastern Washington desert (and a lot of other places in eastern Oregon, Nevada, California and Arizona) you would not believe what is in the air. Everybody has allergies out here. And it doesn't help to have the stuff sucked into your car. I just cleaned the engine air filters in my GT and the family car. After about 10K miles on the GT and 20K in the family car. That 20K filter was so dirty you could grow stuff on it. I also changed the cabin air filter in the GT. The filter cost me about $20 from the dealer and took 10 minutes to change.

As for the old days, there were no cabin air filters that's true. There were no air conditioners, you just opened the windows. Some folks even ran their carbs (three deuces) with just a wire mesh under the chrome pots. And, you know, things were pretty awful in the old days. I know, I was there. It's better now
 

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Northwest GT...understand...but why do they make it so difficult to replace the cabin air filter? Removing the two inside "push pin screws" doesn't seem difficult...but then you look at the pictures and there are approximately 4 clip plungers/hooks that keep the vent cowl in place against the body...do these clips release easily or not? Do you need a flat tip to pop this clips out or what? Then when you're ready to close it all up do they simply snap back into place?

My son's GTI simply has 4 philips-head screws to remove and the cabin air filter assembly inside the engine compartment... slides right out and it's easy to change.

On my Maxima I have the dealer change the cabin air filter since it's behind the glove box and you have to remove the glove box and disconnect an air bag connection (I don't want to mess with that). Trust me, they charge a pretty penny for that.

I do all my own oil changes and engine air filters on all my cars...but this one on the Stang sure appears to be a royal PITA.
(Perhaps if someone could actually post some pics on how to lift and remove the vent cowl/cover...it might make it a lot easier to understand)

Thanks, Mark
 

bigcat

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they are basic screw in style retainers. unscrew them to release the pressue. then pull them out. the cowl cover will come right off, nothing hard about it. go out and try it, its easier than it may sound.
 

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bigcat...I guess you're saying that after you remove the two push-pin style screws that the vent cowl will lift right off? I thought I saw some type of clips under the cowl...(saw square looking holes in the body frame and then elongated plastic hooks in the vent cowl)..l.I'll give it a shot. Do I need to move the wiper arm out of the way before doing all of this?
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UPDATE: I went out and changed the cabin air filter. Not too difficult to remove the two push pin fastners...remove the philips head then use some needle-nosed pliers underneath and squeeze the fastner on the bottom portion and then pull it out.
However, removing the vent cowl was definitely a bit more difficult. I had the assistance of my son who was able to pull it up enough for me to remove the frame containing the air filter...after replacing the air filter I then made sure that the four snap type fastners of the vent cowl were pushed back into the body frame..I then put the two push type fastners back in. It was then that I noticed that I had slightly damaged the edge of the vent cowl in two places. First the edge next to the base of the passenger wiper arm had rubbed against it and then on the far passenger side of the vent cowl (where I was pulling up) where it rubs against the hood while you're trying to keep it open. I fixed both with a little bit of sanding and some flat black paint.
Lesson learned: definitely put your windshield wipers up in the 12 o'clock position...and put something on the far right (like a rag) between the hood and that corner of the vent cowl BEFORE pulling up on the vent cowl.
 
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