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MyJayy

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I'm looking to buy some camber plates but don't know what brand to go with, and can someone help me by giving me some tips on how to install them?
 

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I'm running Maximum Motorsports CC Plates on my 95. VERY good quality. Don't know much about their products for the late models, but can't imagine that they're not a good choice. They provide very detailed install instructions, along with alignment specs.
 
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Ill look into it right now then ! thank you sir!
 

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I second that. Maximum Motorsports makes great parts!
I have a set of their caster camber plates waiting to go in once spring gets here and my stangs comes out of hibernation
DAMN WINTER!
 

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I have a set of Steeda plates on my 12, other then a little bit of noise they seem to work well. I have MM plates on my 91 and they are very nice.
 
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Ground control plates are very nice and the billet work is top notch. They offer +-3 degrees of camber adjustment. We run them on our 13 Boss and 11 GT, I've sold a few of them and everyone seems to be happy.
 

Sharad

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What is it that you hope to accomplish with the camber plates?
 

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Sharad said:
What is it that you hope to accomplish with the camber plates?
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Castering and cambering, of course.
 

Sharad

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Noobz347 said:
Castering and cambering, of course.
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Sharad's Helpful Hint regarding S197 Strut Mounts:

For many years, the 'Net Nerds have insisted that if you lower a Mustang, you need to install Caster Camber Plates to properly align the car. But what does it mean specifically to "properly align" a car? Is it a street car, drag car, or roadrace car? What is the current suspension setup? Is it slammed? What size tires are you running? Can you rotate them? And so on...

I can tell you from personal experience with my S197, that my camber was around -1.2° from the factory which is good for nothing but tire longevity on a cautiously driven car. When I lowered my car about an inch while still using the factory strut mounts, it changed the camber to -1.6°. With my fairly aggressive driving style, including one HPDE at Sebring International Raceway, I went through a set of Nitto NT05s in around 25k miles, with one front to rear rotation, and the tires were evenly worn from side to side. Later, I lowered the car 1.5" total and installed FRPP GT500 strut mounts. With the non-adjustable GT500 mounts, this dropped my camber to -1.8°. I've almost worn through a set of Goodyear F1 SuperCar tires in staggered sizing (no rotation) in about 15k miles (including one auto-cross event), and the fronts are still worn almost perfectly evenly. That is to say, there is no significant tire wear due to the additional negative camber.

On the contrary, the additional negative camber (from -1.2° to -1.8°) has improved the turn-in, making the steering feel more precise. You'll find that most of the racers who run adjustable caster camber plates on S197s actually run 2-3 degrees of negative camber. So in that sense, the negative camber introduced when you lower an S197 with non-adjustable plates actually IMPROVES handling and does not accelerate tire wear. Regarding Caster, our cars have a good amount of caster already, around 8°, so you don't really hear of anyone using cc-plates to add caster.

So there's my two cents. Even though my employer sells camber bolts, and I have connections to score a discount on adjustable cc-plates, I don't run them on my car because the caster & camber on my car are pretty ideal, even with non-adjustable strut mounts. I simply had the toe zeroed out and adjusted the panhard bar to center the axle when I lowered the car.

Hope this helps. I would've made recommendations specific to MyJayy's original post, but when I asked him to elaborate, that seems to have put a target on my back.
 

joe_momma

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Very nice info Sharad.
 
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My last mustang, 2000 GT on eibach PRO kit springs without caster camber plates...
Thats how my tires looked in the front.
Draw your own conclusions.
 

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Sharad

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Nuar said:
My last mustang, 2000 GT on eibach PRO kit springs without caster camber plates...
Thats how my tires looked in the front.
Draw your own conclusions.
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Your picture does show how improper alignment can wear tires, but this is Stangnet's S197 Forum (2005-2013 Mustangs). Your 2000 GT's suspension is nothing like an S197's suspension. It just doesn't work out that way on 2005+ Mustangs.
 
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Sharad said:
Your picture does show how improper alignment can wear tires, but this is Stangnet's S197 Forum (2005-2013 Mustangs). Your 2000 GT's suspension is nothing like an S197's suspension. It just doesn't work out that way on 2005+ Mustangs.
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True Story
 
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Nuar

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I'm sure you're right, I'm just taking a precaution this time around. Doing it right the first time

I have a 2013 GT thats getting the sportline treatment. I got the maximum motorsports C/C plates to go along with the setup
 
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