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Canton 7 Qt. pan and dipstick not reading oil correctly?

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VibrantRedGT

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This is driving me nuts. I put 7 qts in but the dipstick is on the "Add" line. The dipstick itself is as long as the dipstick housing so its not all the way down in the pan. Does anyone else have this problem?
 

moneypit94

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for one, a 7qt pan doesn't usually count for the oil filter. Two, i have to put like 8.5 quarts in mine till the dipstick says full... i usually just put in 8. Also when your messing with it has the engine been running? I notice a huge difference if the engine had been running recently. Takes a little for the oil to get back down...
 

HISSIN50

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Joe, if you want, shoot Rick91Gt a PM - he uses those pans a lot IIRC, and knows the ins and outs. He is a super nice guy too.
 

VibrantRedGT

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I emailed Canton about this but haven't heard back from them yet.

The dipstick housing bolts to the pan up high. If the dipstick is the same length its not sitting at the bottom of the pan. Maybe I'm the dipstick because I don't understand how it can read oil correctly like this.
 

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Does the pan come with a dipstick or do you use the stock one?
 

nmcgrawj

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Dont mean to change subject, but does everyone use 7qts of oil or more in 7qt pan? I think i read on hardcore or somewhere that using 5qts still is how u get less windage. Thoughts?
 

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zenboy99 said:
Does the pan come with a dipstick or do you use the stock one?
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It comes with its own. I don't have the stock one anymore. I might have thown it away.
 

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i have one of these too, but i have no idea why it would read low

Did yours come with the dipstick guide that goes through the block, or just the dipstick itself?
 

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Hi
When we did mine we put 7 quarts in and then marked the dip stick....

Steve
 

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95CobraMike said:
i have one of these too, but i have no idea why it would read low

Did yours come with the dipstick guide that goes through the block, or just the dipstick itself?
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The dipstick and housing came with the motor but not installed or anything. The instructions on it said to bolt the 1/2 inch adapter to the pan. Then bolt the dipstick housing to that adapter with the line nut (already attached). It does not go through the block. Even if it did the dipstick and housing are still the same size. I wouldn't think the housing would go all the way to the bottom of the pan. Hopefully I'm the dispstick in this case.
 

4Jenna

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Run 6qts max. I run 5

I had to mark mine also (Milodone pan)
 

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Find out what it should take excatlly for oil, then mark your dipstick with a file, simple as that.
 

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ithink you need to trim the outer housig to correct the problem if i am undrstanding you right i have a canton pan and we had to adjust it mine is the t style pan
 

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Thats what i did to mine (cut the housing) and mark the dipstick
 

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I was going to cut the top of the housing but the instructions clearly state not to. I'm doing it anyway just so I know.

So I've read in this thread that people are using 8+ qts and some at 5. What the deal here?
 

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yeah i am curiuos too i havebeen running all 8 quarts maybe there is more power to be had with less oil ??? why does it say not to cut it off?
 

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I don't know but I think it has to. The "Add" line is exactly 7 qts right now. I'll measure that line to the "Full" line then cut that much off the top of the dipstick housing. Should be right on after that.
 

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yep sounds like what i had to do exactly
 

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I have ran 7 before...after reading up from some exp racers and reading that they run 5-6...thats what I went with.
To much oil sloshin on the crank, but with a nice pan/pickup running 7 isnt a issue, I guess more pref.


Troy you run 8?
 

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yep 8 qts at least til the next time i change it next year sometime
 
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