car sits uneven?? WTF?

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bossmstng302

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alrighty guys maybe you can express some opinions here. i have a 92 hatch that i have begun to dig into suspension wise. i just put steeda superlite springs on the front and back with the addition of steeda's lower billet weight jacker adj control arms w/ spherical bearings. the front end sits perfect and evenly on both the pass and driver side, but the back end is another story. the rear passenger side sits about 1/2 higher than the driver side. the springs were installed correctly with the pig tails turned towards the driver side and i put new poly isolators on top and bottom of the new springs. i have measured the adj lower control arms countless times and have made sure they were identical in spring perch height on both sides. the springs have been in the car about 1 week now... shouldnt they be all settled in by now??? also, i just ordered new bilstein race valved shocks/struts from maximum that i will install sometime next week when they arrive. is it possible that the new shocks in the back might help??? i am completely lost. sure it would be easy to adjust the right side down to match the driver side, but that would make the spring purchs' uneven side 2 side and possibly affect suspension settings and spring loads. any words of advise would be greatly appreciated. thanks again guys!

 

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I have the same problem, and I couldn't figure it out. I put new springs and shocks on and it didn't fix it. Let me know if you figure it out. If you do a search for this there are a couple other posts where people have the same problem, I don't think anyone knows why...

 

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Welcome to the world of Fox Bodied cars.

http://www.angelfire.com/theforce/5ohcpa/leaning_mustang_club.htm

-Mike

 

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Mine does the same thing, but on mine the entire passenger side leans. looks like a fat ass is sitting in the passenger seat. I posted on this site about that and I basiclly got the same responses that you are. I guess a lot of fox body stangs do it. Oh well I like it anyways

 

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If they are weightjacker control arms, can't you adjust the ride height? Is the spring perch not adjustable? I've never seen a set so I'm just asking. My Mustang wasn't sitting right with the factory springs so I took the front ones out and cut them so they were the exact same height, after I reinstalled them there was still a 1/8" difference. Its just the tolerances in the suspension that makes some of the difference.

 

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yeah i can adjust the differeance in height side to side with the arms... but i thought they should sit evenly when adjusted identical. i am just concerned that lowering one side and leaving the other alone could possilby affect my suspension geometry via the load on the springs. do you think that makes any sense? besides... rasing the car is one thing... when you lower the arm purch steeda warns you to keep a careful eye that the springs doesnt wanna fall out when you go below the factory geometry. i will give them a call tommorow and see if they think there would be adverse affects lowering one side a bit more than the other. you never know unless you try.... this sucks . thanks again guys. i'll keep youposted with my findings!

 

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My car sits even when on the ground, but when I jack it up the it seems like the passenger side is always sitting a little higher that the drivers. I don't know why either....

 

Stang8URMPRT

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If you do not install the springs correctly your car will most definatly sit uneven. The front springs should be common sense to install because there are slots for the end of the springs to fit into. Most people have the problem in the rear. All rear springs should be installed with the bottom of the spring on the lower control arm facing towards the center of the car. Meaning where the coil actually stops, it should be pointing towards the driveshaft. Also, make sure your spring isolators are in. if you don't have them on one side, it will sit crooked.

Nick

 

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My car has factory springs in right now and has the lean. Its a common thing in foxes.

 

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How much do you weigh??

 

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Stang8URMPRT said:

All rear springs should be installed with the bottom of the spring on the lower control arm facing towards the center of the car. Meaning where the coil actually stops, it should be pointing towards the driveshaft. Also, make sure your spring isolators are in. if you don't have them on one side, it will sit crooked.

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The factory coil springs need the pigtails to both face the left side of the car. Aftermarkets may be different.

 

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bossmstng302

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the steeds springs require an install just like the original... with the tails pinting towards the driver side... dont worry i made sure they were correct. as for the isolators... they are brand new poly ones. and whoever asked me about my weight, i am 5 7' and 140 soaking wet... lol... i dont think i am causing it to lean to much. thanks for your reponces guys... i might just have to live with it being a little off. i am just picky i guess.

 

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RIGHT BEHIND YOU!!!... Made you look.

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Does the car really lean? Or does it just look like it's leaning?

From the rear, my Pony looks like it's leaning towards the passenger side (from the front it looks OK).

I measured the ride height at all the rear corners to see how much the sag was, and found that both sides are the same height (all tires were properly inflated too).

A closer look showed that it's the rear bumper cover sagging about 1/4 to 1/2 inch on the passenger side making it look like the car is leaning.

Guess I'll have to get under there and snug it up somehow.

Now I know that some Fox-bodied cars really do get a lean to them. I just wanted to share my discovery since others might have the same thing happen. It could save some frustration.

 

MustangLX-5.0

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Thread resurrection.. lol

I just searched and found this. my drivers side rear sits about a half inch lower than the passenger side. They are Eibach Pro System springs. And yes, I followed the instructions included on placing the pigtails so the very ends point toward the driveshaft. When I look at it from the rear, it looks perfectly straight. But the gap between the tire and fender well is shorter on the drivers side.

What is the cause of this. Obviously its a common problem.

 

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It's such a common problem that a company, that I can't remember, makes rear aluminum spacers in a few common thicknesses to fix it. My stock 86 Capri leaned to the driver's side only in the rear. Been like that since I first bought it in 88. Always bugged me until I found the site (I think it was Stang Suspension but looks like they went out of business). I measured the diff, picked out the spacer and put it in the rear...didn't take all that long and solved my problem....

Spacer looks like a top hat, similar to the lower spring seat and has a pocket machined in it to sit over the stock seat.

Quick Google looks like Global West has something similar.....

Good luck!

 

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Remember, most of these cars are 20+ years old now. Powerfull V-8 engines and who knows how many lead footed drivers= twisted chasis.

I have a friend who is a chassis builder and he wont even touch an origional v-8 fox because most of them are twisted 3/4" plus.

 

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Lawbreaker5.0

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i had this problem but i finally bought adj LCA.

You can buy the spacer HERE

 

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Okay guys here it is:

These are unibodied cars. That meaning that they have no frame. This is why people use subframes and battle boxes. After a while the passenger rear will sag from romping on the throttle. It's completely normal. Mine is WAY off.

As a matter of fact, if your car has too much hp and no subframe I have personally seen the quarter glass get popped out a bit!