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hyperse7en

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i have a 79 cobra 2.3 it used to have a turbo, but somebody swapped it to a n/a 2.3 motor got worn, so they replaced it with one out of notch, that ran good. i have the oppurtunity to buy a rusty old notch with 2.3 carbed turbo for $150. i would like to put the turbo4 in my cobra, but i am not sure if there would be much of a power difference, because its not efi. anyone have any input? also, im on a VERY tight budget, because im 18, and i just lost my job (hopefully working this week) i would be willing to fix up and sell the notch, but i have no place for another car (have 5 cars/ trucks) so if anyone wants a free notch minus engine.......let me know.
so basically i want to know, is it worth it, to drop in the turbo 4??
 

Chewievettte

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I dont know a whole lot about the carbed turbos but buy the car, pull the engine and anything else valuable then scrap the rest. Between selling the good parts and the money from the scrapper you'll get your $150 back.
 

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i would like to, but the car would have to be gone in one or two days MAX. i think ill just pull the engine, all the accessories, and dash. (pretty much, the only thing valuable) then ditch the car, on the side of the road, with "free" painted on the window. the towing company will be there within a couple hours. (owner doesnt have title) my main concern is: is their a major power difference from a n/a carbed 4, to a carbed turbo 4??
thanks guys
jeff
 

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The first thing to remember is that the carb turbo resondes to the same mods that make the EFI turbo gain more power.

You can buy a wastegate bypass kit to build more boost
http://www.boostvalve.com/infofaq.html

Then you need better spark. Something like a MSD-6 and a very high energy coil would be good. Large low impedance plug wires are a must to deliver max voltage.

A turbo profile cam in a ported and polished head will gain a large power increase. I would also get a multi keyway cam sprocket. I dont recommend a adjustable cam sprocket for street use as they have a tendancy to slip.

You need to port the exhaust manifold, then get a 2.5" crossudner pipe and get it Jet hot coated to retain heat. The larger size will be less restrictive and the Jet Hot keeps the heat in the pipe which keep the pressure up (hot air expands, keep it warma nd it takes more volume). By keeping the pressure up you eliminate alot of the turbo lag which the main complaint with the arb turbo cars.

Also a good 2.5" good flowing exhaust will help make more power.

You can use the stock 32/36 DGEV style Holley 5200 but the primary side needs jets bumped up usually two sizes and secondary side usually needs bumped by two to three sizes.

If it were me I'd also duct in cold air to the carb and sue a K&N airfilter.

It is also recommended to add a water injection setup which reduces the intake charge temp, works like poor mans intercooler.

With all teh mods most boost would be in neighborhood of 12-15lbs depending on where you start getting detonation. IIRC stock is 6lbs.

After motor is broken in synthetic lube is recommended sine this will lower operating temps and reduce friction, making more power.

Just guessing but I dont think 225-250hp would be unreasonable
 

hyperse7en

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i really appreciate the help! i believe you missed the part about my tight budget though this car is my daily driver, so it needs to stay reliable, and semi-economical. i guess what im asking is.......for $200-300 (maybe 400) what would be the best mods? i would prefer to increase boost. obviously i dont have much experience with turbos. thanks for the advice
~jeff~
 

Anlushac11

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For $200-$300 budget I would concentrate on super energy coil and rejetting carb.

If you have any money left over get big cross under pipe.

After you bump boost you will need to get a high flow exhuast ASAP to see any real performance.
 
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