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atey950

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I just ordered the Maximum Motorsports cc plates. I understand that the will come with detailed installation instructions. Do you guys know of any tips or additional steps that I should take when doing the install (things that may have been overlooked in the instructions)?
I'm also installing new polyurethane iso pads at the same time.

Thanks, All.
 

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When I installed these on both my cars I took a couple real good measurements so I could line up the new caster camber plates. 1 from the center of the strut bolt to a spot on the firewall ( marked with tape). 2 from the center of the strut bolt over to the fender (also marked with tape) I wrote these measurements down.
Once I got my new caster camber plates installed, I took time to set up to the measured dimensions.

I didnt even need to get my cars realigned.

Good Luck
 

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89SSC18 said:
When I installed these on both my cars I took a couple real good measurements so I could line up the new caster camber plates. 1 from the center of the strut bolt to a spot on the firewall ( marked with tape). 2 from the center of the strut bolt over to the fender (also marked with tape) I wrote these measurements down.
Once I got my new caster camber plates installed, I took time to set up to the measured dimensions.

I didnt even need to get my cars realigned.

Good Luck
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thanks for the tip. i'll definitely do that.
 

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MM instructions are more than sufficient. I would highly recommend a good alignment once you are done, using the specs provided in the instructions.
 

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Husky44 said:
MM instructions are more than sufficient. I would highly recommend a good alignment once you are done, using the specs provided in the instructions.
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The car has eibach sportlines on it and has been in need of these plates for a while now. My brother works at a dealership and will be taking it for alignment ASAP.
 

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89SSC18 said:
When I installed these on both my cars I took a couple real good measurements so I could line up the new caster camber plates. 1 from the center of the strut bolt to a spot on the firewall ( marked with tape). 2 from the center of the strut bolt over to the fender (also marked with tape) I wrote these measurements down.
Once I got my new caster camber plates installed, I took time to set up to the measured dimensions.

I didnt even need to get my cars realigned.

Good Luck
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Great tip, especialy if you cant' get right over to the alignment shop. What really good about this advice is thinking of what would happen if you DIDN'T take those pre measurements?
 

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Husky44 said:
MM instructions are more than sufficient. I would highly recommend a good alignment once you are done, using the specs provided in the instructions.
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Husky 44 - I ssume MM plates come with caster/camber set numbers base on the rest of your suspension...?
 

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Sorry for the delayed response... been travelling for the past 28 hours.

I don't have the instructions readily available, and it's been several years since I did my install, so I can't remember precise details as far as setting it up for the drive to the alignment shop. I do know that was what I did--completed the install, then drove straight to the alignment shop.

The specs I mentioned weren't specific to any suspension setup; they're simply MM's recommended alignment specs
 

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Thanks for the replies everyone. Plates are installed along with new poly coil spring isolators. I would have been screwed if I didn't have those measurements..
 
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atey950 said:
Thanks for the replies everyone. Plates are installed along with new poly coil spring isolators. I would have been screwed if I didn't have those measurements..
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the measuerments you took?


going to be installing mine soon on my 95 and need to know what tips as well, should I take measurements beforehand as well?/
 

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See Post #2….
 

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how likely is it that you will not ever need an alignment if put back to the same specs lol?
 

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You will need an alignment. The measurements will get it where you can drive it to an alignment shop. Look at the installation instructions and MM has recommended specs that are different than factory.
 

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You will need an alignment. The measurements will get it where you can drive it to an alignment shop. Look at the installation instructions and MM has recommended specs that are different than factory.
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gotcha
 

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You will need an alignment. The measurements will get it where you can drive it to an alignment shop. Look at the installation instructions and MM has recommended specs that are different than factory.
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So when I put the CC plates on my 94 several years ago I checked everything over real good, drove the car, even went by a tire shop and showed the car to them, did not let them necessarily check it on the alignment machine explain some things to the guy he looked at the car and he said you may be okay he said it looks fine to me. So the steering wheel and everything is straight the car doesn't pull or anything like that and so I don't drive the car everyday not even every weekend and so I can't even say how many miles I put on it since I put the engine in. But all signs pointed to me not needing an alignment so I made a note to check my tires and see how they look inside and out and I'm sure they're fine but maybe in all cases you don't need an alignment LOL. They did come off of my other car
 

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See page 8 for the alignment specs and get it aligned.

https://www.maximummotorsports.com/assets/install/pdf/front_susp/MMCC7989r8.pdf
 

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See page 8 for the alignment specs and get it aligned.

https://www.maximummotorsports.com/assets/install/pdf/front_susp/MMCC7989r8.pdf
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If it needs it sure
 

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The MM specs are not the stock Ford specs.
 

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I like the most positive caster setting recommendation. Mine are set that way. It makes for slightly more effort in turning the steering wheel but the benefit is the car maintains a more straight line going down the road with minimal wandering.
 
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I’m quoting MFE over on the Corral as he races a lot. He also turns his own wrenches and aligns his car himself.

Caster gives you more negative camber on the outside tire when turning, and that's the primary reason you want more caster in a fox-body.

Camber does NOT significantly impact caster.

Caster has a slight impact on toe because the more positive caster you have, the more you raise the steering knuckle on the spindle, which will affect the toe marginally and at the extreme, change the bumpsteer characteristics.


What you need to take from that is you need to put as much caster in the car as you can get. If you can get more on one side than the other make them the same. Realize this is going to increase toe-in or toe-out depending on the height of the steering rack in relation to the outer tie rod connection point on the spindle.

One last thing is you typically do not need a bumpsteer kit when doing this unless the car is lowered.
 
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