bigcat said:i cant believe that spike tv and the autorox awards named the charger and mustang (TIED for first) as the best muscle cars.
Power4 said:We all know the current Charger isn't a muscle car in the true sense of the word and people are stupid so it doesn't bother me.
66Satellite said:Well, even with four doors the Charger is lot closer to being a "muscle car" than the Mustang, which is a pony car. In fact, I'm not sure having four doors disqualifies the Charger from being a muscle car. A muscle car is simply a mid-size American sedan with a high performance V8, marketed as such. I don't know that anyone has ever considered a Mustang to be a muscle car.
Szlachcic said:I agree with you that the Mustang is technically a pony car and not a full-blown muscle car, but I would say that a pony car is basically the little brother of the muscle car. A pony car is generally smaller and has a smaller engine, but both are very similar and appeal to the same market. Plus whenever I have seen something about muscle cars there is always a section about the pony cars, so I would consider them a subset muscle car.
I think it was dumb if they were comparing the SRT8 Charger and the GT since price-wise there is no comparison. I believe the SRT8 model can easily run you around the 40k range while we have paid mid to upper 20k for our cars. I actually like the Charger SRT8 (I have seen one in person and it is pretty bad ass), which is something I can't say for the base, R/T, and Daytona Models, but I don't think it is as good as the new Mustang in any way.
66Satellite said:The new Mustang GT is an awesome bang for the buck--no one has anything close for $25k. The only "true" muscle car IMO is the outgoing GTO. I wish they had made the Charger a two door but oh well. The new Challener should be cool (and I'd probably call the Challenger a pony car, too, though it is starting to push it a bit--it's gonna be about as big and heavy and the current Charger).
66Satellite said:Well, even with four doors the Charger is lot closer to being a "muscle car" than the Mustang, which is a pony car. In fact, I'm not sure having four doors disqualifies the Charger from being a muscle car. A muscle car is simply a mid-size American sedan with a high performance V8, marketed as such. I don't know that anyone has ever considered a Mustang to be a muscle car.
Fourth Horseman said:I'd just like to add to that the original muscle cars were full sized sedans, ala the Chevy Impala SS and the Ford Galaxy 500.
JTGrant said:the charger is the biggest Joke of what a "Muscle car" is. It doesn't even deserve to wear the charger name. Yeah fours door charger, Yeah that is a great idea. I am suprised however that the charger was not a compact hatchback with a 4 cyl that would have been even better. But I don't like the car. Yes I like the idea of a car with good room and four doors (BMW M5 for example) but they should have never called it a charger. It no way reminds me of a Charger.
66Satellite said:Well, even with four doors the Charger is lot closer to being a "muscle car" than the Mustang, which is a pony car. In fact, I'm not sure having four doors disqualifies the Charger from being a muscle car. A muscle car is simply a mid-size American sedan with a high performance V8, marketed as such. I don't know that anyone has ever considered a Mustang to be a muscle car.
66Satellite said:Nope, "muscle cars" are, by defintion, Mid-Size--ala 1964 Pontiac GTO.
Fourth Horseman said:Just for the record, to quote another page from the wikipedia site:
"The Impala is often credited with starting the muscle car era" (emphasis mine).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Impala
That was the only point I was trying to make.
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