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cobra/mach1 front brakes

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RoadconeTuning

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i just installed the cobra upgrade on mine...

only way i can describe it is Face Peeling Deceleration...

04 cobra calipers
13" Brembo Cross Drilled and Slotted Rotors
Goodridge Stainless Braided Lines
Hawk HPS pads




 

madmatt

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This is definately a planned modification for my car.
 

TrueBlue03

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i heard a lot of the drilled rotors crack and/or warp. Several manufacturers have even told the mustang shop in my area that their rotors have a chance of cracking.

i think i'll be goin with slotted and dimpled.
 

Mustang5L5

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san~man said:
You have evidence to back up that claim?

Many, if not all of the supercars manufacturers have drilled, slotted, or both types of rotors on their cars. That includes Porsche, Lambo, Ferrari, etc etc.

Ever see a $3000.00 Brembo Grand Prix rotor system upgrade use regular rotors? I haven't. How about a ceramic Porsche GT brake system? Slotted and drilled there too. Murcielago? Drilled ceramic brakes. I'm sure they all don't do it for the "bling."

You get the picture....I'm just asking for proof of your claim.
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Drilled rotors grew from the use of racing-type pads which expel gases when heated. That's it. Another reason is weight reduction.

Drilled rotors offer no cooling advantage at all. They are drilled perpendicular to the airflow stream so there is no flow at all through them. WHen the racing pads expel their gases, they escape through these holes. Most modern street cars however do not expel gases. Some of these exotic sports cars DO use the special type of pad which requires the holes.

Also, these exotic cars have 13 and 14" brakes. That's a lot of mass. Mass and surface ares is what cools the rotor. The bigger the rotor, the more heat it can aborb. Also, the plain faced rotors have a bigger surface area also helping with cooling. When you have a rotor so big, you have excess cooling so drilling the holes will not affect it much and it reduces some weight. Anyone who's done the 13" upgrade knows these rotors are heavy! These little rotors on imports are maybe 9-10" big so they don't have a lot of mass to begin with. Crossdrilling rotors reduces their mass even further hurting their braking a tad.

GM brake engineers have done some testing on the C6 vette and have discovered that the crossdrilled rotors they offer on the vette do help in top end deceleration. They speculate that at high speed braking, the speed of the rotor passing the holes scrapes off a thin later of glazing at each pass allowing more fresh pad to bite. This was only at high speed though, like 140-180MPH and the difference was minimal. At lower double-digit speeds they didn't notice a difference.

However, the rotors on these cars are better constructed than some of the ebay cheapo rotors. Even price Brembo or Baer crossdrilled rotors? Almost $300/pair.

Just some of the stuff i've learned through reading the "crossdrilled vs plain" rotor threads that always pop up.

Personally, on a street car, you won't notice a difference, but be aware that cheapo crossdrilleds can crack on you.
 

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I bought 13 inch rotors today for the fronts. Cant wait. Im just going to go with the Mach calipers. Oh yea, if anyone wants to buy the rear rotors, I have them for sale. They are from an 03/04 cobra that had 80 miles on it when these were pulled. Let me know.

What brake lines are all of you using? Im going stainless steel for sure, but dont know what brand is good/bad.
 

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I have goodrich. So far so good. They came with my kit so they weren't my choice but them seem to be very well made, installed easily and pedal feel was instantly better
 
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FYI We have a GP for nice cheap rotors going right now, here. For GT or Cobra rotors.
 

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Thanks 5L5.
 
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