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Codes from unpluged ECU??

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Chietala

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I have the motor apart already and Im wondering if there's any way to dump the codes with the ECU out of the car?

Need to to ckeck mas air and some other things before start up!
 

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Was power disconnected from the computer (was the battery removed or disconnected)? If so, no codes.

Good luck.
 

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Agreed^^^

If the battery has been diconnected for more than ~15 min, then I doubt you'll get any memory codes.

Wish you luck with startup though.

jason
 

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Damn...

Is there anyway to check if MAF is good?
 

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probe with a multimeter I believe
 

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A defective MAF will set code 66

Code 66 MAF below minimum test voltage.
Insufficient or no voltage from MAF. Dirty MAF element, bad MAF, bad MAF wiring, missing power to MAF. Check for missing +12 volts on this circuit. Check the two links for a wiring diagram to help you find the red wire for computer power relay switched +12 volts. Check for 12 volts between the red and black wires on the MAF heater (usually pins A & B). while the connector is plugged into the MAF. This may require the use of a couple of safety pins to probe the MAF connector from the back side of it.

There are three parts in a MAF: the heater, the sensor element and the amplifier. The heater heats the MAF sensor element causing the resistance to increase. The amplifier buffers the MAF output signal and has a resistor that is laser trimmed to provide an output range compatible with the computer's load tables.

The MAF element is secured by 2 screws & has 1 wiring connector. To clean the element, remove it from the MAF housing and spray it down with electronic parts cleaner or non-inflammable brake parts cleaner (same stuff in a bigger can and cheaper too).

The MAF output varies with RPM which causes the airflow to increase or decease. The increase of air across the MAF sensor element causes it to cool, allowing more voltage to pass and telling the computer to increase the fuel flow. A decrease in airflow causes the MAF sensor element to get warmer, decreasing the voltage and reducing the fuel flow. Measure the MAF output at pins C & D on the MAF connector (dark blue/orange and tan/light blue) or at pins 50 & 9 on the computer.

At idle = approximately .6 volt
20 MPH = approximately 1.10 volt
40 MPH = approximately 1.70 volt
60 MPH = approximately 2.10 volt

Check the resistance of the MAF signal wiring. Pin D on the MAF and pin 50 on the computer (dark blue/orange wire) should be less than 2 ohms. Pin C on the MAF and pin 9 on the computer (tan/light blue wire) should be less than 2 ohms.

There should be a minimum of 10K ohms between either pin C or D on the MAF and ground.

See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) & Stang&2Birds (website host)

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/fuel-alt-links-ign-ac.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/88-91eecPinout.gif
 

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:OT: Joe, do you know if the above voltage vs. speed numbers are ~ the same for a 94-95 MAF (on a 94-95 car)? I'd think so but I'm not super savvy with MAF's.
 

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HISSIN50 said:
:OT: Joe, do you know if the above voltage vs. speed numbers are ~ the same for a 94-95 MAF (on a 94-95 car)? I'd think so but I'm not super savvy with MAF's.
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I got the numbers from the Probst book, but they should be similar. The 94-95 MAFs are a 1:1 swap for the original MAF on the 89-93 foxes, so I would expect the same numbers.
 

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I got the numbers from the Probst book, but they should be similar. The 94-95 MAFs are a 1:1 swap for the original MAF on the 89-93 foxes, so I would expect the same numbers.
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Thank you sir.
 
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