Come on Ford - step it up

Stark77 · Oct 21, 2008

2008 Toyota Tundra Supercharged by TRD Follow-Up Test and Video
Man, I wish Ford would step up and compete with the small block chevy. Now we have to worry about a toyota pickup truck too.

kuwait · Oct 21, 2008

suvs and trucks with high hp numbers make me laugh , they are awfully slow , they weight a ton , this car is no diffrence than a Porsche cayenne turbo which is awfully slow aswell(beaten them with ease from a roll) with a whooping 521 lazy horses no matter how much they mod them , put all that **** on them they stall cant take a bolton 05 , or a similarly moded mustang , hell... it takes 6k to buy the kit off for a normal tundra , id be doing whillies all day with that kind of money

bhuff30 · Oct 21, 2008

I wouldn't call this tundra "awfully slow": 1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.3 @ 103.8
And the new Jeep SRT-8 runs 13.5 which is still easily faster than a stock 3v GT.

kuwait · Oct 21, 2008

bhuff30 said:
I wouldn't call this tundra "awfully slow": 1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.3 @ 103.8
And the new Jeep SRT-8 runs 13.5 which is still easily faster than a stock 3v GT.

13.3 with 500'ish hp is not awfully slow? and if you wana magazine race , pretty much anything look better on paper than a mustang.

Brute03 · Oct 21, 2008

13.3 is pretty fast for for a 2 1/2 ton truck on 22's if you ask me....

Stark77 · Oct 21, 2008

If you look on youtube, you can see plenty of SRT-8's lighting up very quick times at the track. It's OK to admit that there are cars faster than a mustang out there. Point being: Toyota is putting an OPTION out there for consumers to buy a faster truck than stock. What is ford doing for factory performance packages (other than Roush, Saleen, etc) on an otherwise stock car. The demand has always been there - but the corporate response isn't.

bhuff30 · Oct 21, 2008

The arguement is not what can or can not be done with 500hp. And If you want to talk about 500hp being pathetic, look at the new GT500. Magazines typically test them to 12.7. Last one I saw at the track struggled to run 13.4 in warm-sticky weather while my 4cyl was running 13.0's. I seriously doubt I can break 300hp at the wheels too!

Anyway, where is ford in the 500hp truck/SUV market? They could very easily put the 500hp 5.4 motor in an F150, along with some suspension goodies and at least have something in the market (though it would constantly get knocked aside by SRT8 jeeps, the SRT-10 dodge truck and this new tundra.

kuwait said:
13.3 with 500'ish hp is not awfully slow? and if you wana magazine race , pretty much anything look better on paper than a mustang.

kuwait · Oct 21, 2008

Stark77 said:
If you look on youtube, you can see plenty of SRT-8's lighting up very quick times at the track. It's OK to admit that there are cars faster than a mustang out there. Point being: Toyota is putting an OPTION out there for consumers to buy a faster truck than stock. What is ford doing for factory performance packages (other than Roush, Saleen, etc) on an otherwise stock car. The demand has always been there - but the corporate response isn't.

i don't deny that there are many faster cars than a mustang , would be foolish to even consider that, what i was saying that this car is pitiful and thats about it , my personal opinion , my personal opinion isnt a scientific fact as you guys imagine it to be , and i never claimed Srt-8s are slow , just pointing out that a 2.5 ton pickup with 500 hp and runs mid to high 13s is slow , there is one on you tube with exhaust and TRD supercharger running 13.9xx and getting owned by a mustang

this "option" costs about 6k , now top of the notch supercharger setup + forged internals for a 2v mustang + labor wouldnt cost that much and would probably net you somewhere mid 400s

what i realy want to say , its another car on the road and its nothing to be worried about if all they could manage is high 13s with 500 hp.

1990Coupe · Oct 21, 2008

This is the sameeeeee concept as the ford's lightning.

Ford needs to bring back SVT.. and the lightning!

Stark77 · Oct 21, 2008

Yeah, you can get a better set up on a mustang for that cost but can you get a FACTORY WARRANTY against engine damage etc? That's what I would be willing to pay for. I'm not into trucks - as I don't need to haul anything other than my big R/C planes (which I simply fold my back seat down for). I just posted this as a question - where is Ford's sport truck/suv lineup? As soon as Chevrolet comes out with the 300hp V6 camaro, the question is going to be where's the 5.4 liter Mustang GT?

Wolvrin704 · Oct 21, 2008

Well since they just killed the BOSS engine what we have is as good as it'll probably get. At least until they decide to do the turbo V6.

LaserSVT · Oct 21, 2008

Wolvrin704 said:
Well since they just killed the BOSS engine what we have is as good as it'll probably get. At least until they decide to do the turbo V6.

They didnt kill the BOSS engine. Its going in F series for now and will be seen in the Stang soon I am sure. They are just not releasing it in the Stang at first because of gas. Now that gas has dropped 1.40 a gallon we might get to see it sooner

Stark77 · Oct 21, 2008

The OPEC Moguls are in the process of decreasing production by 1mil bbl / day so expect the price to re-inflate artificially if they decide to do this.

Mustang92 · Oct 21, 2008

Stark77 said:
The OPEC Moguls are in the process of decreasing production by 1mil bbl / day so expect the price to re-inflate artificially if they decide to do this.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a temporary jump in price but I still seeing it dropping after a few days. You have to keep in mind that OPEC bumped up the production by a couple of mil barrels a day while the price was sky rocketing in order to curb the pricing and it didn't do much of anything. So really all they are doing is reducing output back to what it was when gas was $2.00-2.50 a gal.

As for Ford stepping up...good luck with that. I'm surprised much of anything high performance is being created for the market (Challenger RT, GT 500, SRT anything) as most of those programs don't return big dividends. They generally don't make much if anything on them it's the base models that brings in the money and right now all the manufacturers are bleeding cash and are trying to stop the blood flow. Aside from the programs that are already nearly complete like the new Camaro I wouldn't expect too much else coming to the market for quite some time.

Bill

mogs01gt · Oct 21, 2008

Stark77 said:
Now we have to worry about a toyota pickup truck too.

LMAO no we dont........

Stark77 · Oct 21, 2008

Mogs - did your 4.6 GT run a quicker 1/4 off the showroom floor than that truck?

kuwait · Oct 21, 2008

Stark77 said:
Mogs - did your 4.6 GT run a quicker 1/4 off the showroom floor than that truck?

whats your point? most of the modern 2006+ cars has a better quarter mile time than your avreage 2v GT , it aint the end of the world. personaly i bought my car because it looked good , i could have picked a Lumina SS for same price as the GT , it has 6-speed and a LS1 , i just liked how the ford looked , in the end after you mod the car , stock figures barely mean anything.

back to the original thread , id like to see a new lightning aswell , would be a awesome addition

DBMSTNG · Oct 21, 2008

Stark77 said:
As soon as Chevrolet comes out with the 300hp V6 camaro, the question is going to be where's the 5.4 liter Mustang GT?

a 300hp V6 in a 4,000lb car isn't going to scare Ford, or anyone else, into jumping to a larger V8.

bhuff30 said:
Anyway, where is ford in the 500hp truck/SUV market? They could very easily put the 500hp 5.4 motor in an F150, along with some suspension goodies and at least have something in the market (though it would constantly get knocked aside by SRT8 jeeps, the SRT-10 dodge truck and this new tundra.

Ford is smart enough to realize that a 500hp truck would do nothing for them. right now they can't give away SRT8 Jeeps and the SRT-10 was a commercial flop before gas hit $3 a gallon. they were originally $50,000+. in there last year, they had trouble selling them in the $3x,xxx range. if i remember correctly, i saw an ad for a new one for $33,000 in their last year.

kuwait said:
this "option" costs about 6k , now top of the notch supercharger setup + forged internals for a 2v mustang + labor wouldnt cost that much and would probably net you somewhere mid 400s

you also need the $1065 exhaust on that truck. total "option" cost is closer to $7k+ install.

kuwait · Oct 21, 2008

DBMSTNG said:
you also need the $1065 exhaust on that truck. total "option" cost is closer to $7k+ install.

OH MY GOD WHAT A BARGIN FOR RUNNING HIGH 13's

Mustang5L5 · Oct 21, 2008

Trucks shouldn't go fast. They are trucks. They are meant to be tough and rugged. If i ever was to buy a truck, it will have a turbo-deisel in it with gobs and gobs of torque. Screw a gasoline engine in a truck...seems like a waste to me.

If i want to go fast and handle...i buy a car.

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