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Electrical Contour fans to a toggle switch, what do I need?

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Hey guys. I bought the Contour fans and just decided for sake of ease and since I've had bad luck with fan controllers in the past, I just want to use a toggle switch I can flip when I need it. And before I hear the horror stories about forgetting to flip a switch, I realize the risk. Usually I'm monitoring my temps like a hawk because I've had overheating issues in the past.

So wondering what amp relays I need, what amp slow burning fuse and what gauge wire to use? Would that be all I need? And do I wire it straight to the battery or solenoid?

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Bosch 75A.
This will control the fan automatically via the temperature switch installed in the thermostat housing.
If no A/C, eliminate the relay on the right & the wire to the fan clutch.
 
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How much of the fan system did you get? If you got the wire harness that connects the fans in a single plug at top of shroud, one wire will give you low speed of both fans, one wire will give you high speed. If you wire the toggles to trigger one relay each, then the output 12V power from each can be wired to each of the two factory wires at that connector. Then you have high and low speed fans on 2 toggles.

If you have or planning to use some of the Contour wiring, see post 1-3 here...

Electrical - Contour Fan Install with OEM controller

So first off, this may have been done before but my install is a bit different than all I have read in the past. If nothing else it is a different way to hook up the system. I used as much of the Contour electrical system as I could and then simply connected my controller. Oh ya, this is a...
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KRUISR said:
How much of the fan system did you get? If you got the wire harness that connects the fans in a single plug at top of shroud, one wire will give you low speed of both fans, one wire will give you high speed. If you wire the toggles to trigger one relay each, then the output 12V power from each can be wired to each of the two factory wires at that connector. Then you have high and low speed fans on 2 toggles.

If you have or planning to use some of the Contour wiring, see post 1-3 here...

Electrical - Contour Fan Install with OEM controller

So first off, this may have been done before but my install is a bit different than all I have read in the past. If nothing else it is a different way to hook up the system. I used as much of the Contour electrical system as I could and then simply connected my controller. Oh ya, this is a...
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Thanks for the info. What happens if I just wire both low and high together connecting to one switch? I'm just using the harness that came with the contour fans from lmr.
 

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I am not familiar with the harness from LMR. I just went to their site and checked what you get. It looks to me that you get 2 pigtails, one for each motor. On the Contour they are wired together (both come on, either high speed or low speed). Low speed goes through the thermo resistor included on the fan (lower driver side of shroud), high speed gets full 12V power. Basically the most simple installation is a 70 A relay (factory Contour uses 70 A for low and another 70 A for high speed) that is actuated by your toggle. Wire the two motor positives together and grounds together. You will have high speed fan anytime you throw the toggle. Simple and basic.
 
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I am not familiar with the harness from LMR. I just went to their site and checked what you get. It looks to me that you get 2 pigtails, one for each motor. On the Contour they are wired together (both come on, either high speed or low speed). Low speed goes through the thermo resistor included on the fan (lower driver side of shroud), high speed gets full 12V power. Basically the most simple installation is a 70 A relay (factory Contour uses 70 A for low and another 70 A for high speed) that is actuated by your toggle. Wire the two motor positives together and grounds together. You will have high speed fan anytime you throw the toggle. Simple and basic.
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Awesome. I just want to keep it as simple as possible. I bought a 80 amp relay and now I gotta get an inline fuse to for extra safety. 10 gauge wire is safe to run? it's also hooked to the fuse panel to be ignition on
 

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Power wire from battery to fuse, fuse to relay and relay to fans should be the larger gauge. Power from toggle to switching side of relay and ground can be 18 gauge as Blown88GT's diagram shows.

Enjoy
 
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Blown88GT said:
Bosch 75A.
This will control the fan automatically via the temperature switch installed in the thermostat housing.
If no A/C, eliminate the relay on the right & the wire to the fan clutch.
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This is the best input you have gotten so far. Take it and run with it,

If you don't have a high current alternator, you can forget about using an electric fan. The stock 65 amp alternator on 86-93 Mustangs isn't big enough to run the fan and the rest of the car. If you have a 94 or later Mustang, the stock 3g alternator should be fine if it is working correctly.

Switching a fan on and off manually is a bad idea. Too many guys have been distracted (hot girl kissing on their neck, too much to drink, dog tired and not thinking clearly) and cooked things because they forgot to flip the switch. An equal number have forgotten to turn the switch off for the same reasons and run down their battery.

The best fan controller available today is a DC Control unit. www.dccontrol.com. Cost is about $???. Be prepared to wait 4 weeks or more to receive your controller once you have sent in your payment. The controllers are custom made in small lots and lead times can stretch out.

Next best is a SPAL controller - $70-$170 See http://www.spalusa.com/store/Main.aspx?html=pwmv3. eBay will have the controllers for a bargain price: do a Google search and see what you find.

At the bottom are the Hayden or Imperial controllers available through Advance Discount Auto Parts and AutoZone. The non adjustable one is about $30 ( Hayden 226206) and the adjustable one is about $60 (Hayden 226204). I recommend you do a Google search on Hayden and the part number for more info.

Do not use a simple on/off switch without using a relay. The high current load can burn up the typical cheap automotive switch very quickly. The fan draws 30 or more amps and you need to use #10 or #8 wire on the fan power and ground wiring.


Alternate placement for a temp gauge sender or temp switch/temp sensor for an electric fan. Use the heater feed that comes off the intake manifold. Cut the rubber hose that connects the manifold water feed to the heater and splice in a tee adapter for the temp gauge sender. Be sure to use the same water feed line as the ECT sensor. That way you will get the most accurate temp readings.

Tee adapter info:
Make a pilgrimage to your local hardware or home supply center and get some copper pipe and a tee that fits the temp gauge sender. Solder two pieces of copper pipe onto a copper pipe tee with threads in the tee part. Find the correct brass fitting to match the temp sender threads to the tee fitting.

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