Converting to a Carb'd Setup

k00ksta · Aug 23, 2010

Anyone converted there setup to a carb'd setup? I am getting so damn tired of the computer in my SN95 that I am about ready to pull the top half out the car and just go carb'd. Getting chip's burnt is a pain and its not a daily driver so anyone think its a dumb move and I should just continue to fight with the damn thing to get my stroker setup to stay running right?

fordtech28 · Aug 23, 2010

it would just as expensive to convert it to carb with no big benefits if you get a tuner software like tweecer or quarterhorse you can keep tunning your car as you make changes to it mail order chips are not always dead on .

revhead347 · Aug 23, 2010

Swapping out that e cam would probably solve half your problems.

Kurt

hssnpny · Aug 23, 2010

What's the downside of running an E? I don't doubt that there are better cams, but I don't have any driveability issues with mine.

Adam95GT · Aug 24, 2010

EFI to Carb conversion- Mods Sticky please

But seriously... just tune the car.

Black95GTS · Aug 24, 2010

hssnpny said:
What's the downside of running an E? I don't doubt that there are better cams, but I don't have any driveability issues with mine.

E-cam was designed for a naturally aspirated, carb'd, 302, with stock heads.

You have a supercharged, fuel injected, 331, with Twisted Wedge heads.

Square peg --> round hole.

Adam

revhead347 · Aug 24, 2010

E-cam is just a really old single grind design. Cars tend to have tuneability problems with them, andit's not very good on the performance.

Kurt

k00ksta · Aug 24, 2010

revhead347 said:
Swapping out that e cam would probably solve half your problems.

Kurt

What cam would you suggest? I am emissions exempt.

k00ksta · Aug 24, 2010

Also anyone had decent luck with quarter horse? or have a used tweecer rt they wanna sell?

bayellowstang · Aug 24, 2010

I have my car idling fairly decent with the X303 and a twEECer RT. I have never used the QH but it can log more parameters then the tweecer which is always better.

Adam95gt has a QH, don't know if he got it all working yet though.

final5-0 · Aug 24, 2010

Sure E cam of fury is outdated

Then again

With mods such as those

You're gonna have to tune anyway

One way or the other ... You're gonna have to deal with it

Grady

revhead347 · Aug 24, 2010

k00ksta said:
What cam would you suggest? I am emissions exempt.

Cam selection comes up on this website all the time on this website. I've come to the conclusion that there really is no way I can give you anywhere near as valuable advice that you can get from a cam professional. If you call Comp Cams and speak to a tech there, you're going to get much better advice. They probably have the largest selection of off the shelf cams. Most of the people on this website recommend a custom cam, which is good advice, and only mildly more expensive than buying an off the shelf grind. If you want an off the shelf cam, I would call Comp, and Anderson. Maybe a few other places. I've driven a few cars with a milder head setup than you have, and an e cam. That cam is a dog, and is so outdated.

Kurt

cody50 · Sep 2, 2010

I went carb, because i went 427. The efi stuff really chokes down airflow on big c.i. I don't think you will have much problem feeding the 331. I would stay stick to the efi if it is a daily driver. Tuning is constant either way, and you will never get it perfect, only close. I had a comp .555 .565 hydro roller in my 347 I really liked. Lots of low end torque yet.

stangbangerrick · Sep 2, 2010

hssnpny said:
What's the downside of running an E? I don't doubt that there are better cams, but I don't have any driveability issues with mine.

I have a 95 gt with a 331 stroker with a ford X303 cam and had it dyno tuned with a SCT chip. When I picked up the car it was great all issues with the hanging idle and engine cutting off went away and I had more power and torque. But after 2 months the car was cutting off after I would drive it and then turned off the engine and it sat lets say for more than 5 minute and I would go to start it it would die unless I gave it some gas and let it run fast for about a minute or if I would drive it right away and did not have to stop and after about 100 feet in would run and idle just great. I have changed the IAC, TPS, plug wires and check all the sensor, still the car is not running like it did when I picked it up from the tuner. Took out the chip and the car returned to it old self before I got the tune. Put back in chip and hooked up my friends LM1 unit to the car (had a bung put in the o/r x pipe for the wideband 02) and we did some runs set on all 3 tunes at WOT in 3rd gear and the A/F ratio was never less than 14.8 which is way to lean. Finally got ahold of the tuner and he tells me that the tune is good and something else must have gone bad. He said he would take a look at it but it would have to be after the 7th of Sep. I think I will be getting the moates quaterhorse and become a maste of my own tune.

stangbangerrick · Sep 2, 2010

Black95GTS said:
E-cam was designed for a naturally aspirated, carb'd, 302, with stock heads.

You have a supercharged, fuel injected, 331, with Twisted Wedge heads.

Square peg --> round hole.

Adam

Ford Racing Performance Parts catalog (2006) states "On EFI engines performance camshafts work only with mass air induction systems. Will not work with Explorer EEC-V EFI"

To say that they would not work on EFI that is running the mass air induction is false.

Black95GTS · Sep 3, 2010

stangbangerrick said:
Ford Racing Performance Parts catalog (2006) states "On EFI engines performance camshafts work only with mass air induction systems. Will not work with Explorer EEC-V EFI"

To say that they would not work on EFI that is running the mass air induction is false.

Where does it say in my comment that it won't work? Of course it will still run, it just performs like crap, especially in light of modern technology.

If you're going to fight the same tuning issues anyway (you are) then it might as well be for sizeable gain in the end. An e-cam is gonna get you... a lopey idle.

Adam

legalize420 · Sep 3, 2010

Black95GTS said:
If you're going to fight the same tuning issues anyway (you are) then it might as well be for sizeable gain in the end. An e-cam is gonna get you... a lopey idle.

Adam

wow so if i change my cam i can pick up some major horsepower. you think i can break 300 with a tfs1? to think all that time the only thing it was good for is sound.

Black95GTS · Sep 3, 2010

legalize420 said:
wow so if i change my cam i can pick up some major horsepower. you think i can break 300 with a tfs1? to think all that time the only thing it was good for is sound.

You won't break 300 because your heads won't support it naturally aspirated.

Adam

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