CRANK HARD TO TURN ??

howiefisher · May 18, 2008

well i primed the crap out of the motor had lots of oil pressure started cranking and it was turning over good but no start so i removed the distributer and put the #1 piston at tdc and the hb at 0 and put the ditributer back in crank it it fired then stalled didit again it just cranked and the motor started to get tighter now it feels to hard to turn with the jonson bar its in nuetral and no belt on what could make it get so tight is that nomal for a new motor ?

str8stang036 · May 18, 2008

Is your car a manual or auto?

howiefisher · May 18, 2008

5 speed its in nuetral it does feel like its in gear but its i nuetral its a new cluch and motor what would make it go so hard to turn

str8stang036 · May 18, 2008

I had a similar problem as yours. When I bolted up my flywheel is was rubbing against the oil pan not allowing it to spin freely. Once I fixed that it still wouldn't turn. It ended up being the (4) bolts that hold the tranny to the bellhousing that were causing a misalignment in the input shaft. I left the bolts a little loose at first and it worked. With the time it got better until I was able to tighten them completely. Check it out.

howiefisher · May 18, 2008

you think i should loosen them off there is 6 bell housing bolts and could you see rubbing marks on the oil pan ??is was spinning free at first then it almost stated now its hard to turn ??

str8stang036 · May 18, 2008

not the bellhousing to block bolts, the tranny to bellhousing bolts. Just an idea, loosen them a bit and try cranking the engine until you get a full rotation. If that works, then slowly tighten them until it doesn't spin anymore, then loosen again.

howiefisher · May 18, 2008

did you take the tranny out i just took the motor out but i guess what your saying is lossen the tanny to bell housing bolts to releive pressure of the pilot bearing or mabey it will re aligne

howiefisher · May 18, 2008

did yours turn good at first then it got tighter ??

HISSIN50 · May 18, 2008

Pull the plugs so you can tell if you're fighting compression or have an interference issue. It'll be easier to hear any issues when cranking it by hand with no plugs too.

Good luck.

howiefisher · May 18, 2008

this car is starting to drive me nuts

str8stang036 · May 18, 2008

I had taken out both, tranny and motor. Yes, what I am saying is loosen it up to relieve some pressure and see if that works. After the motor turned, it got better and I was able to tightened it completely.

howiefisher · May 18, 2008

did your s turn at all mine turned fine till it tried to start then it got really tight ?

SublimeRT · May 18, 2008

HISSIN50 said:
Pull the plugs so you can tell if you're fighting compression or have an interference issue. It'll be easier to hear any issues when cranking it by hand with no plugs too.

Good luck.

That's the first thing I thought of too. Did you try that yet?

howiefisher · May 18, 2008

no i will try tomarrow and let you guys know ok thanks till tomarrow ?

howiefisher · May 20, 2008

so i took the plugs out and its still tight .were the bell housing joins to the block i can see the bearing up there so thats what is causing the prob not joined right hope is the right pilot bearing they gave me ?,now should i take the motor and trans out togather or motor out or just pop the trans off what is going to be the easyest ,and most effecint remember its on ramps in my drivre way ????thanks for your advice guys ps i do have an engine crane

HISSIN50 · May 20, 2008

So what's the deal? The trans didnt mate properly to the engine? How did that happen?

howiefisher · May 21, 2008

well i am going to pull the motor back out tonight i hope that when i take it out and pull the plugs out its turnes freely its brand new never even fired and like i said i primed the **** out of it a new engine should not seize just from cranking would it ??? if so i will be taking it back and theywill be giving me a new one ... i just hope that the trand was not lined right ?pilot bearing not seated right ?i hope but it cranked over fine then got tight after cranking it for iod say 20 cranks but it was building oil pressure whgile i was cranking as well so i dont knoe how i could do bearing damage ?

HISSIN50 · May 21, 2008

If it was priming well, it should not have seized.

I wouldnt have pulled the engine so quick. With no plugs and turning the motor backwards and forwards (I bet it goes backwards ok, giving you some room to turn it forward), you could narrow down the point of interference.

Good luck with it bud.

str8stang036 · May 21, 2008

I agree with Hissin, don't pull the motor yet. Check things one at a time before you go for the bigger checks. Did you try loosening the tranny bolts first?

howiefisher · May 21, 2008

well i just pulled the motor and pulled the plugs back out and took the belt off its hanging on the crane and its still way to tight and it squeaks wqhen its turned over so WTF......this is a brand new motor never even fired and was very well primed with a drill in reverse till the drill almost caught fire like 1 to 2 min ?read 65 on the oil pressure guage .so what happend ,trush bearing ?well i guess i should take it back ??

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