My 289 in my 66 is finished and now I'm looking for a crate engine. where is the best places to get one? I'm thinking about getting a 351W
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sand1man
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http://www.coasthigh.com/
http://www.dssracing.com/
I have heard really good things about both of these
http://www.dssracing.com/
I have heard really good things about both of these
one2gamble
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Those are really good places.sand1man said:
www.Speedomotive.com has the cheapest i found, but dont know about the quality
Get the coast high 347, it should be a easy fit in the car and good cid too. But make shure to get the one with the shorter rods (3.15"??) and taller pistons. Its a little more money but they dont have as much oil blow by and last longer than other 347's.
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67GTCOUPE
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Do you have any mechanical skills or have friends who are mechanics?
Personally I suggest building your own motor....that way it is exactly what you want!
You won't go wrong with a Ford Racing Crate motor, if you aren't able to build your own.
Personally I suggest building your own motor....that way it is exactly what you want!
You won't go wrong with a Ford Racing Crate motor, if you aren't able to build your own.
1320stang
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Try a search for crate engines also, we 'bout beat this to death almost a week ago.
http://forums.stangnet.net/showthread.php?t=454038
Cleveland and a Windsor have different blocks, different main journals, different intakes, different heads (and valvecovers) although the bore centerlines between the two (and a 289/302) are the same. That's in a nutshell. A 351C water exits thru the front of the block instead of the face of the head into the intake. A 351C flows no water thru the intake. The main journals are smaller on a 351C than a 351W though bigger than a 289/302. The deck height is taller on a 351W (0.298") and the rods are longer than a 351C (0.176", but the bore and stroke and rod journal size remain the same, the difference is made up by the 351C's shorter piston compression height (0.122" diff).
http://forums.stangnet.net/showthread.php?t=454038
Cleveland and a Windsor have different blocks, different main journals, different intakes, different heads (and valvecovers) although the bore centerlines between the two (and a 289/302) are the same. That's in a nutshell. A 351C water exits thru the front of the block instead of the face of the head into the intake. A 351C flows no water thru the intake. The main journals are smaller on a 351C than a 351W though bigger than a 289/302. The deck height is taller on a 351W (0.298") and the rods are longer than a 351C (0.176", but the bore and stroke and rod journal size remain the same, the difference is made up by the 351C's shorter piston compression height (0.122" diff).
Good stuff 1320, you forgot to mention the canted valve setup on the Cleveland heads, they are certainly better for power than inline Windsor types. Of course the aftermarket more than makes up for that difference, and aftermarket parts are more plentiful, meaning you have a better selection.
1320stang
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DOH!!! yeah, you're right, that's a pretty big difference. I also didn't mention that you can put the C heads on the W with a little work to the heads and the Track Boss intake or that the NASCAR Ford Engines use a Cleveland styled head on their Windsor based motors. I also didn't mention the difference in weights in stock based motors, but I don't know what those weights are.
Hack
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A table I found online said this regarding engine weights. This is supposed to be the total weight with accessories.
289-302 460
351W 525
351C 550
289-302 460
351W 525
351C 550
dodgestang
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Snail50 said:
that would be me...stay away from speedomotive...I dealt with them for a stroker but I would not expect them to treat people any different with one of their crates...VERY long story short, they built me parts, admitted to making those parts to the wrong specs and I still had to eat the cost of the parts.
Both Dss and Coast have good/bad reputations with different people. If you want a well made crate motor, that arguably uses inferior parts (ie rod bolts), get a FRPP one. Its so easy just to change out the rod bolts anyway. The clearances should be uniform across the whole production run, instead of off/on as with a handbuilt one.
Besides, you should always double check anything anyone or even yourself built before putting it in your car anyway.
Besides, you should always double check anything anyone or even yourself built before putting it in your car anyway.
I agree that ARP rod bolts are the best but don't count Ford out as their quality isn' too bad. My budy has a short block from them that is basically the Sportsman 351 block with all truck internals. We have Edelbrock Victor heads and the engne consistantly spins to 7000rpm at the track and runs 11.4s on slicks. The only breakage we have had on this car over the last couple of years was a Crane ignition system and the Tremec he spattered a few months ago. I agree that ARP bolts are the best but for the average engine the Ford stuff is fine.kslushy said:
What do you guys think about the engine that I have posted? Has anyone heard anything about that website? That is pretty much exactly what I'm looking for.
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