jeremy, that would be awsome if you could get me daves email or somethin. i am buyin a rebuilt t5 and i'm gonna take my worn out t5 and cryo all the stuff.DARK-5.0 said:Cryo strengthens the metal by tightening the metal particles. In more than most cases it is effective. I haven't heard much of it being an ineffective thing to do such as mentioned about. Ben, shaggy dave cryo'd his rotating assembly in his volvo. He'd be a good person to talk to about that. Just let me know.
i was reading some of the arguments over on hardcore about this and an opponent of cryo'ing gave this example. he was comparing the process of freeezing to heating and stated that when you cook a hot pocket and let it cool off, that it goes back to the state of originality. that is true, but try to cook that hot pocket again and you will notice it is much more stiff and rigid. i am not expecting miracles here, just an improvement for the cost. i found a couple of places that will do a set of rods for $65, that is pretty reasonable imo. most places will charge like $2 a pound for smaller parts, a whole tranny could be as little as $200.Joes95GT said:I don't like cyro-treated parts. I think it's bogus....
A certain type of metal has a specific density. There is no way in hell that by FREEZING the part, you're going to make it any more dense. It's basic chemistry, and you can argue until you're blue in the face, I'm not going to believe you.
It could be much more dense while it's down at the sub-zero temperatures they treat it at, however, when it comes back up to room temperature, there is no physically possible way that it could change density.
Hardcore has one very good thread that is probably a year old that is filled with info....
Joe
That hot pocket example can only go so far. Cook it a few more times and now it's burnt.bimmertech said:i was reading some of the arguments over on hardcore about this and an opponent of cryo'ing gave this example. he was comparing the process of freeezing to heating and stated that when you cook a hot pocket and let it cool off, that it goes back to the state of originality. that is true, but try to cook that hot pocket again and you will notice it is much more stiff and rigid. i am not expecting miracles here, just an improvement for the cost. i found a couple of places that will do a set of rods for $65, that is pretty reasonable imo. most places will charge like $2 a pound for smaller parts, a whole tranny could be as little as $200.
I'd love to see the results, win or lose.bimmertech said:here is my promise to stangnet, i am going to replace my worn out/grinding t5 in my 95 with a rebuilt t5, and get my car dyno'd. i will then rebuild my worn out unit cryo'ing all parts and post before and after dyno results of both tranny's. the reason being that a cryo'd part is reported to have less friction, thus transmitting power more effeciently(less drivetrain loss).
Joes95GT said:I don't like cyro-treated parts. I think it's bogus....
A certain type of metal has a specific density. There is no way in hell that by FREEZING the part, you're going to make it any more dense. It's basic chemistry, and you can argue until you're blue in the face, I'm not going to believe you.
It could be much more dense while it's down at the sub-zero temperatures they treat it at, however, when it comes back up to room temperature, there is no physically possible way that it could change density.
Hardcore has one very good thread that is probably a year old that is filled with info....
Joe
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