custom grind cam questions????

sleeperstang199 · Feb 18, 2008

Where do i get one,how, and what does it usually cost. any recomendations from people who went this rout would be great!

heres my combo, from what i remember havent seen my car since winter started ........o ya right my parts:

stock cobra block and internals
AFR 165's 60cc chambers
FRPP 1.72 RR
custom trickflow pushrods....cant remember the lenght right now
trickflow street intake manifold
bbk LT headers
catless x pipe
msd 6AL
current cam is a steeda #19, got it per recomendation from my friend but i think my old FRPP B cam was better.....not very happy with the 19.....o well, heres where you guys pick up give me the facts!!!!!

PJC Racing · Feb 18, 2008

Camshaft Innovations, $400 for a billet shaft, $299 for a SADI shaft

5spd GT · Feb 18, 2008

There are 3 popular options out there...

Ed Curtis @ www.flowtechinduction.com

Jay Allen @ www.camshaftinnovations.com

Buddy Rawls @ http://wighat.com/fcr3/

They are all very knowledgeable.

I have gotten my AFR heads and custom camshaft from Ed and got exactly what I wanted. It was $325 for the "SAY"di camshaft, and he offers a billet for $100 more.

The others will do the very same for you as they did for me.

DDSTANG94 · Feb 18, 2008

FTI, have not seen any dyno graphs from the others, but i have for FTI and they are always good...

That dont mean others arnt good tho

In my opinion you dont need billet steel, a regular one will be fine

gmkillr · Feb 18, 2008

I had a great experience from www.camshaftinnovations.com
Jay Allen was awesome to work with, and helped me fufill all that I wanted w/ my car + some!

95Vert · Feb 18, 2008

DDSTANG94 said:
In my opinion you dont need billet steel, a regular one will be fine

This is what pisses of a cam grinder I know, even though it's just your opinion.

Some may argue he just tries to upsell the billet core, but I sure appreciated it when I hit a piston and bent 6 or 7 valves and the cam just laughed at it.

Jay Allen @ www.camshaftinnovations.com

95opal · Feb 18, 2008

I purchased everything I needed through Ed C. and was very pleased with the whole process start to finish. I am even more pleased with the results.

As for price, it will all depend on how radical you go with your cam.( ie.. you might need new springs, retainers, ect....)

Im sure any of the above mentioned guys will do you justice.
Good luck with your decision.

DDSTANG94 · Feb 18, 2008

95Vert said:
This is what pisses of a cam grinder I know, even though it's just your opinion.

Some may argue he just tries to upsell the billet core, but I sure appreciated it when I hit a piston and bent 6 or 7 valves and the cam just laughed at it.

Jay Allen @ www.camshaftinnovations.com

Y would the cam be damaged from piston to valve contact?....(Serous question im not being a smart ass)

It seems like the lifter and push rod would take the damage from that.....i mean the cam doesnt come near touching the valves,

95Vert · Feb 18, 2008

DDSTANG94 said:
Y would the cam be damaged from piston to valve contact?....(Serous question im not being a smart ass)

It seems like the lifter and push rod would take the damage from that.....i mean the cam doesnt come near touching the valves,

Serious question, what is the lifter rolling on? The piston hit the valve, bent the valve, locked the springs and retainers, bend several pushrods, which put extreme pressure on the lifters and cam but the cam didn't break, so the lifter broke and the cam was just scraped. That last part would've been broke the cam if I had gotten a sadi core.

Plus, why skimp on the brain of the engine, valve train stability is what makes power and SADI cores can flex at higher rpms. I'm not taking credit for this knowledge, this is what Jay preaches to everyone, just thought I would share with you.

DDSTANG94 · Feb 18, 2008

95Vert said:
Serious question, what is the lifter rolling on? The piston hit the valve, bent the valve, locked the springs and retainers, bend several pushrods, which put extreme pressure on the lifters and cam but the cam didn't break, so the lifter broke and the cam was just scraped. That last part would've been broke the cam if I had gotten a sadi core.

Plus, why skimp on the brain of the engine, valve train stability is what makes power and SADI cores can flex at higher rpms. I'm not taking credit for this knowledge, this is what Jay preaches to everyone, just thought I would share with you.

listen, I took the time to put in my post it was a serous question and i wasn't being a smart ass...

and what do u do? u mock me "SERIOUS QUESTION"

I have a cam from FTI and NOT ONCE did he EVER try to sell me a billet steel cam or tell me they would be a benefit in my combo, he gave me lots of info and incite, but none of it was saying up grade to billet...

I got a Question for you, Y did the piston hit the valve?

95Vert · Feb 18, 2008

DDSTANG94 said:
IF anyone needs a Custom cam PM 95vert he works for jay Alan!!

Let the flamin begin. People like you are what messes crap up for people who really want to learn. David(5spGT) and opal went with Ed Curtis and they speak for him. Now I get crap for speaking up for Jay. You're pathetic.

You asked a fairly naive question and I replied in a tone that would suit such a question, step by step so you could better understand it.

95Vert · Feb 18, 2008

DDSTANG94 said:
listen, I took the time to put in my post it was a serous question and i wasn't being a smart ass...

and what do u do? u mock me "SERIOUS QUESTION"

I have a cam from FTI and NOT ONCE did he EVER try to sell me a billet steel cam or tell me they would be a benefit in my combo, he gave me lots of info and incite, but none of it was saying up grade to billet...

I got a Question for you, Y did the piston hit the valve?

Just like you asked a serious question, so did I. I have never dealt with Ed and can't speak for him so your dealing with him is your business.

DDSTANG94 · Feb 18, 2008

95Vert said:
Let the flamin begin. People like you are what messes crap up for people who really want to learn. David(5spGT) and opal went with Ed Curtis and they speak for him. Now I get crap for speaking up for Jay. You're pathetic.

You asked a fairly naive question and I replied in a tone that would suit such a question, step by step so you could better understand it.

no one gave u any crap for speaking for jay, his cams may be Great and Im sure they are, hell they might even out preform others...idn.....that's not the point U took offense when i said i didn't think it was necessary to have a billet cam for some reason talking about "thats what pisses Cam grinders off" that's pathetic,

and talking about wanting to learn "IM NIEVE" for not know that can damage a cam so everone who dont understanf that is nieve right??? ......, u were the rude one not me

95Vert · Feb 18, 2008

Ok I was rude, my bad, I guess.

I thought the lifter question was naive, especially since you're dishing out advice on cams and stating you don't think he needs a billet core without knowing his goals; rpm, et's, etc. But oh well, we learn something everyday.

You put an 's' on the statement I made. Double check it.

95Vert said:
This is what pisses of a cam grinder I know, even though it's just your opinion.

Guess we can leave it at that.

DDSTANG94 · Feb 18, 2008

95Vert said:
Ok I was rude, my bad, I guess.

I thought the lifter question was naive, especially since you're dishing out advice on cams and stating you don't think he needs a billet core without knowing his goals; rpm, et's, etc. But oh well, we learn something everyday.

You put an 's' on the statement I made. Double check it.

Guess we can leave it at that.

k dont want to argue Ive seen many of ur posts on here and i think ur a realy smart knoladgeabke guy

By the way, i was dishing out advice on whereto get one from..that is what he asked.... BUT!! i was not dishing Technical advice on them or how they work

95Vert · Feb 18, 2008

Not really man, I don't know nearly enough and I've got a ton to learn.

Hope this guy gets what he's looking for. Either of the professionals mentioned will get him there, I bet.

R.A.T.M. · Feb 19, 2008

I can't speak highly enough about Ed Curtis -> and I was one of those people that thought Ed was just another Corral flavor of the month....I was wrong, way wrong. Best bet is to talk to him about your goals and discuss the overall combo with him.

dartvader · Feb 21, 2008

Ed curtis here, got what I asked for and more

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