Diablo Predator vs

DBMSTNG · Jun 14, 2005

UDTBadkarma said:
Well I would like to do 3.73 gears, 70mm Accufab Plenum and VT Stage 2 Cams sometime in the near future. Cams maybe in like Decemenber. And I think I will probably go with the Predator since my car is a DD and will only go to the track like 2-3 times this summer.

Are you saying that I can call Diablo and have them custom load a tune into the predator designed for my car for like an additional $75? So I will have the Predator come with the Factory Tune, Their light modification tune, AND the custom tune I bought for $75? AND one slot for an additional tune of my own?

Or am I misinturpretting that? Because the Pred comes with the Factory HP tune, their custom light modded tune and one custom tune slot of your own, right?

being a DD has nothing to do with which one you should choose. i'd highly suggest getting the Xcal2 and upgrading to the Pro Racer Package when you add the cams.

BlackenedSVT · Jun 14, 2005

DBMSTNG said:
being a DD has nothing to do with which one you should choose. i'd highly suggest getting the Xcal2 and upgrading to the Pro Racer Package when you add the cams.

The SCT X2 specificall says it DOES NOT ADD HP. It only lets you adjust things and basically read the engine codes. Which, while nice...i'd rather have the Pred which does the same thing and adds hp. And what is/does the "Pro Racer Package" do?

BlackenedSVT · Jun 16, 2005

pdl2flr · Jun 17, 2005

UDTBadkarma said:
The SCT X2 specificall says it DOES NOT ADD HP. It only lets you adjust things and basically read the engine codes. Which, while nice...i'd rather have the Pred which does the same thing and adds hp. And what is/does the "Pro Racer Package" do?

I think this was answered earlier. To the best of my knowledge, from the factory the SCT X2 comes without a tune and is basically just a flasher. BUT, most mustang part dealers that sell the SCT X2 (like Modular Depot) include a performance tune with the Flasher. The Predator comes with a performance tune in the flasher from the factory. So in the end they will have similar functionality.

Give Me TP · Jun 17, 2005

pdl2flr said:
I think this was answered earlier. To the best of my knowledge, from the factory the SCT X2 comes without a tune and is basically just a flasher. BUT, most mustang part dealers that sell the SCT X2 (like Modular Depot) include a performance tune with the Flasher. The Predator comes with a performance tune in the flasher from the factory. So in the end they will have similar functionality.

Exactly. They are both simply a means to re-flash your vehicle's computer. They both do so in the same way and differ only in the extra features they provide. Kinda like cell phone service. Sprint, Cingular, and Verizon all work toward the same end, having you blab on the phone wherever you may be, but offer different services and pricing to get you there.

Chili · Jun 17, 2005

Give Me TP said:
I am getting Predator custom tunes via e-mail for $75...

Who are you using? I got one also but paid a little more, just curious what other options are out there.

Thanks.

Give Me TP · Jun 17, 2005

Dave at www.injectedracing.com

You have two of the same mods as I do, the SLP catback and the C&L CAI. The best Diablo tuner in the local area is undoubtably Jeremy at HPP Racing. If you haven't been to their new shop it's located in Lewisville.

Chili · Jun 17, 2005

Give Me TP said:
Dave at www.injectedracing.com

You have two of the same mods as I do, the SLP catback and the C&L CAI. The best Diablo tuner in the local area is undoubtably Jeremy at HPP Racing. If you haven't been to their new shop it's located in Lewisville.

I familiar with the guys over there.. When I go to a power adder I'll probably have them handle the install and tune.

Thanks!

starchman · Jun 17, 2005

Dave is the man! He had a sweet deal on the Predator a while back; threw in lifetime free tunes as well. He also gave us the tune on the same day we gave him the list of mods.

DBMSTNG · Jun 17, 2005

UDTBadkarma said:
The SCT X2 specificall says it DOES NOT ADD HP. It only lets you adjust things and basically read the engine codes. Which, while nice...i'd rather have the Pred which does the same thing and adds hp. And what is/does the "Pro Racer Package" do?

where the hell did you read it does not add hp? it's the same thing as the predator. you can adjust timing and fuel. exactley what you'd need to do to add hp. SCT also provides users with calibrations made specifically for your car, why? to add power. what the hell would be the point of flashing the PCM if it didn't add power?

the pro racer package is the most powerful tuning program available. it's the exact same software tuners use. you can moddify anything in the computer except your odometer. for obvious reasons.

BlackenedSVT · Jun 17, 2005

DBMSTNG said:
where the hell did you read it does not add hp? it's the same thing as the predator. you can adjust timing and fuel. exactley what you'd need to do to add hp. SCT also provides users with calibrations made specifically for your car, why? to add power. what the hell would be the point of flashing the PCM if it didn't add power?

the pro racer package is the most powerful tuning program available. it's the exact same software tuners use. you can moddify anything in the computer except your odometer. for obvious reasons.

Modular Depot's Website said:
...This flasher will not only give you more power, but it will take the place of multiple products...

Yeah ok, thats my bad, i read that completely wrong I read that as: this flasher will not give you more power. I left out the word "only". My bad

Anyone know what dyno tuner Crazy Horse or La Roccas uses in south jersey? Do they use the Diablo software or SCT? Becasue this will be my deciding factor...

EDIT:Will this work on any other cars? Or you buy them only specifically for their applications? Like I couldn't hook this up to my friends G35 right, this is only set up for fords...

starchman · Jun 17, 2005

Both the SCT and Predator are vehicle specific; their websites should say which vehicles each will work on. I don't know about the SCT, but the Predator can only tune 1 car at a time; you must re-install the stock tune into the original car to tune a different car. Does anyone know what parameters can be changed with each unit, and to what degree? Is the Pro Racing Package similar in function to the Tweecer RT?

skullmaster427 · Jul 18, 2005

what's up guys... not trying to change topics but venom for 80s and 90s mustang that u simple plug in and turn it on and there is 25% extra horse(on summit racing)do they have anything like that for 99 and up mustangs?the main reason i dont really wanna mess with my computer setting is not to hurt my mpg i would like to have something that u can set on/off any help?

DBMSTNG · Jul 18, 2005

skullmaster427 said:
what's up guys... not trying to change topics but venom for 80s and 90s mustang that u simple plug in and turn it on and there is 25% extra horse(on summit racing)do they have anything like that for 99 and up mustangs?the main reason i dont really wanna mess with my computer setting is not to hurt my mpg i would like to have something that u can set on/off any help?

don't believe the advertised hp on the venom kits. stick with SCT. Diablo isn't bad, but SCT is growing fast, and there's a reason for it.

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