Do the BBK full lengths have EGR & O2 holes?

Scot_94GT

Scot_94GT

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#1
I am probbably going to buy some BBk full length headers real soon, but I was wondering if they have holes in them for the O2 sensors, and the EGR plumbing. I checked the BBK website, but they don't say much. Although, it DID say that the headers for 94-95 Mustangs were for off road use only...does that mean they do not have the necessary smog stuff?

I will be buying the catted h-pipe to go with them. Perhaps the O2 sensor holes are on that? From the pics on Summit and BBk's webiste, I can't see holes for either the O2's or the EGR.

:shrug:
 
#5
Make sure you ask about the EGR when you order -- and tell them you dont want it unless it has it. I ordered mine about a year ago and it came without one. I ended up with customer service at BBK who argued with me that they didnt come with one -- even after I queried this forum (half said they received it half said they didnt) BBK finally sent me one that did have the bung.
 
#6
DJHA90 said:
Make sure you ask about the EGR when you order -- and tell them you dont want it unless it has it. I ordered mine about a year ago and it came without one. I ended up with customer service at BBK who argued with me that they didnt come with one -- even after I queried this forum (half said they received it half said they didnt) BBK finally sent me one that did have the bung.
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Well...I was planning on ordering from Summit online. How can I be sure they send me the correct header? Should I order over the phone instead?

Also...something that just has me worried about this project...
Has anyone had the bolts that fasten the header flange to the cylinder head snap off when loosening them? I am worried that this might happen since I've never loosened them before, and my car is over 10 years old now.
 
#8
MysteryMachine said:
doesn't that defeat the purpose of having them and if you need that stuff and their not smog legal won't they still fail? :shrug:
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Long tubes put the O2s too far away from the head and that's why they're not smog legal - however, I've heard of people still pass smog after running the car a while and getting those O2s nice a hot so they do their job correctly.
 
#10
GRGT1994 said:
Keep us posted on how the purchase and install go. Some others on here are thinking of going BBK LT soon too (me for example).
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Will do. So far, I have the tranny out, and the bellhousing just came off tonight. Here's a fun fact:
Ford's factory assemblers were TOO FROCKING LAZY to install the top 2 of the 6 bellhousing-to-engine bolts!!! :mad: It also seems that they thought putting grease on the clutch release lever ball joint was also "optional" that day. :rolleyes: Lazy mofo'ing a-holes!! The squesking clutch release lever (which I had previous thought was a squeaking throwout bearing) was what prompted me to tear my car apart in the first place...(the BBK LT's are just a "well, since I'm already gonna have the car tore apart..." kind of addition to this project....as is the King Cobra Clutch that is going to be replacing the stock clutch. :D

Here was the thought process:
Hmmm...something is squeaking...sounds like the throwout bearing. Better check it out.
Hmmm...Since I have to have the bellhousing off to check the TO bearing, I may as well inspect the clutch too.
Hmmm...as long as I will have the clutch off, I may as well upgrade it.
Hmmm...as long long as I will be 90% of the way there, I may as well replace the rear main seal.
Hmmm...As long as I will have the h-pipe off, and they will be easy to get at, I may as well throw some longtubes in there. :D

By the end of this project I'll probably have a 393 stroker under the hood. :D

Anyways....anyone ever snap a header flange bolt in the cyl. head? That scares me more than anything right now...especially considering how hard those header-to-hpipe bolts came off.
 
#11
Scot_94GT said:
Here was the thought process:
Hmmm...something is squeaking...sounds like the throwout bearing. Better check it out.
Hmmm...Since I have to have the bellhousing off to check the TO bearing, I may as well inspect the clutch too.
Hmmm...as long as I will have the clutch off, I may as well upgrade it.
Hmmm...as long long as I will be 90% of the way there, I may as well replace the rear main seal.
Hmmm...As long as I will have the h-pipe off, and they will be easy to get at, I may as well throw some longtubes in there. :D
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lol i use that same logic cost a lot of money at one time doing that though which sucks
 
#15
xkuntrycowboyx said:
Soak your header bolts in PB Blaster really well the night before you do the project...then the day of, go and spray em again about a 1/2 hr before you start...this should help tremendously
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Does the PB Blaster brand have something special in it? Or will any spray type Liquid Wrench or WD-40 work?
 
#16
Let's say I order them nd when they arrive, they do not have the EGR hole. Can I still use them? Will my car run right if the EGR is not hooked up? We don't have emissions inpections anymore here in MN, so I'm not really worried about that.
 
#19
Well...Summit's customer service finally got back to me, but I have already ordered the stuff (better late than never I guess :rolleyes: ),

Anyways...this was their response:
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Response (Kip) - 04/11/2005 02:00 PM
Scot,
Thanks for writing. From what BBK shows us, there is no EGR or O2 fittings on
those headers. The EGR is eliminated and the O2 is meant to be mounted into
their X or H-pipe.

Thanks,
Kip
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sooo...they say that there are no EGR OR O2 fittings. Does this guy know what he is talking about? "from what BBK shows us..." sound like he is just looking at a picture and trying to decide... I hope he's wrong. :nonono:
 
#20
Im not sure dude but i certainly hope that they have the EGR and 02 holes for you. I think you have to have that EGR on there or it will crap out on you, but then again thats just my logic. I cant say for sure. I would go out on a limb and say that the 02's MUST be hooked up. Keep us posted bro. Good Luck :rolleyes:
 
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