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Does my GT have a Romeo or Windsor block?

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'13_ImpactBlue_GT

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How can you tell?
 

jasonh_86

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Your's is Romeo.

Romeo was Feb '01-'04
Windsor was 99-01

Romeo uses bolt-on cam gears.
Windsor uses press-on cam gears.

Romeo has 11 bolts on the valve covers.
Windsor has 13 bolts on the valve covers
 

'13_ImpactBlue_GT

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Thanks.
 

jasonh_86

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No problem mang.. I'll toast to that
 
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jasonh_86 said:
Your's is Romeo.
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Is one better than the other?
 

HoustonGT

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Yes! The Windsor is better
 
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JayC

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HoustonGT said:
Yes! The Windsor is better
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HoustonGT

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JayC said:
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I was JK, but ive heard people say that the slightly lower compression on the Windsor blocks means theyre a bit better for boost
 

jasonh_86

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HoustonGT said:
Yes! The Windsor is better
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If you like having to replace the cam gears and getting a new intake manifold when your's busts


IMHO.. They're about equal, I do like the Romeo better tho.
 

HoustonGT

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jasonh_86 said:
If you like having to replace the cam gears and getting a new intake manifold when your's busts


IMHO.. They're about equal, I do like the Romeo better tho.
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:middle finger smiley:
 
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Hey guys im kinda confused now...
In the july mm&ff issue there was a cam swap and it discussed the differences in the two engines, (pg. 180-189) There is a little sidebar on pg. 187 that said if the vin has a 'w' in the eighth place its a romeo and if it has an 'x' its a windsor.

My car is an 2002 and it has an 'x' there which should mean its a windsor or is their information incorrect?

Also it says that "the oem camshafts in romeo-style engines use a non-removable cam sprocket" and that the windsor has the bolt on sprockets.

Just wondering which way is up at the moment lol
 

jasonh_86

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HoustonGT said:
:middle finger smiley:
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I"m just bustin your balls man.. all in good fun
 

jasonh_86

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Black'02 said:
Hey guys im kinda confused now...
In the july mm&ff issue there was a cam swap and it discussed the differences in the two engines, (pg. 180-189) There is a little sidebar on pg. 187 that said if the vin has a 'w' in the eighth place its a romeo and if it has an 'x' its a windsor.

My car is an 2002 and it has an 'x' there which should mean its a windsor or is their information incorrect?

Also it says that "the oem camshafts in romeo-style engines use a non-removable cam sprocket" and that the windsor has the bolt on sprockets.

Just wondering which way is up at the moment lol
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You'd think they'd know this by now

You have Romeo.. Windsors are the motors with the pressed on cam gears
 

urban96

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romeo o romeo where for art thou romeo


i want a tekside(spelling?) block w/forged goodies
 
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urban96 said:
romeo o romeo where for art thou romeo
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HoustonGT

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urban96 said:
romeo o romeo where for art thou romeo


i want a tekside(spelling?) block w/forged goodies
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me too. One can be had very cheap and it'd be nice to have a blown 32v
 

Skidzz

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mode101 said:
urban96 said:
romeo o romeo where for art thou romeo
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I can't believe he actually said that haha.

Oh and +1 for the romeo block.
 

RandyStinchcomb

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Black'02 said:
Hey guys im kinda confused now...
In the july mm&ff issue there was a cam swap and it discussed the differences in the two engines, (pg. 180-189) There is a little sidebar on pg. 187 that said if the vin has a 'w' in the eighth place its a romeo and if it has an 'x' its a windsor.

My car is an 2002 and it has an 'x' there which should mean its a windsor or is their information incorrect?

Also it says that "the oem camshafts in romeo-style engines use a non-removable cam sprocket" and that the windsor has the bolt on sprockets.

Just wondering which way is up at the moment lol
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only believe 1/2 of what you read in mm/ff and most other mags as stated above, yours is a Romeo

also, Windsor's are a tad stronger/better then the Romeo's as Windsors use the same conn-rod as the Cobras which have full-floating piston pins and that can free-up a few more HP
 

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Plus who says i have a 351R... no its a 351W (sorry im a former 5.0 boy)
 

RandyStinchcomb

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PlatinumDevil said:
Plus who says i have a 351R... no its a 351W (sorry im a former 5.0 boy)
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you ain't seen the half of it FoMoCo, 351M, 351C, 351W 4.6 SOHC "W" 4.6 SOHC "R", 4.6 DOHC, 4.6 3V blah, blah, blah, blah
 
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