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Does painless really not hurt?

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1967project

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I am at that point in my resto where I have to replace the wiring harness.
I only plan on running the following:

Headlights
Taillights
2 ea cooling fans
Holley Blue fuel pump
radio w/ stock speakers
Windshield Wipers
Remote Trunk
Alarm
Interior Light
Possible Electric Windows

I will not have A/C or heat.
My alternator is from a 90's fox - 105 amp I think. Cant remember off the top of my head.

Painless shows a chassis wiring harness 14 circuit universal Ford and a 14 circuit 1967 Mustang harness.
Ive heard horror stories and read articles that make it look as easy as making kool aid.
Any ideas out there?
 

CraigMBA

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It's a 30 or 40 hour install. If you know what you're doing.

I've built my own harnesses before, the painless unit is easier than scratch building one, but it's not a drop in.
 
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suki243

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if you get the mustang specific one it won't take that long, the wires are crimped already; that is a drop in from what i've heard.
http://www.painlessperformance.com/webcatalog/largeview.php?SearchField=20121
That's the mustang specific one right?

The
2 ea cooling fans
Holley Blue fuel pump
Remote Trunk
Alarm
Possible Electric Windows

I'm not sure how you'll be able to get all that in on the stock harness, it will take modification and research to see which wire receives current when;

Rather, i'd suggest getting a general harness; it takes a more work because it doesn't come precrimped but from the sounds of the mods that you have i think it'd be better. I used a EZ wiring kit; not painless, i used a 21 circuit, i had way too many wires left over. so i think 14 is good for your purposes. But mine had wires already labeled for electric fans, fuel pumps, trunk light/opener, electric windows, etc. I still have to call them to see how to wire an alarm i'm not sure which wire receives constant voltage.

Its not a nightmare, and its not that hard either, just take your time when replacing the wires.
 

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I just received the 67 specific painless harness this past week. Looks really good. I kept thinking I wanted the factory replacement but after much research and advice from painless's forum I decided to get their kit. It looks really good. The factory underdash part was going to be as much cost wise as the complete painless that covers everything. Sign up for CJ Pony parts emails and they have been doing 10% off Fridays, got the entire kit for $562. Tech support said 20 hours on average to pull the old and install the new. The universal kit would take longer.
 

1967project

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I dont mind doing the time as I still have to purchase all the small parts for the interior and exterior. I will check out the EZ harness as it seems to be a better price than painless.
The car will go in for its finishing work on the body as well as paint in about 25 days. Will be done in 6 months, but thats ok cause im stuck in Iraq till then.
Will post pics when I can.

Thanks.
 

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the painless or ez wire kits are not hard to install, but they are time consuming. more so the more universal the kit because you have to cut the wires to length, and terminate the ends. the nice thing though is you dont have to wire up the fuse box, have several spools of wire on hand, and work from a wiring diagram. the wires are marked every few inches as to where the wires go.
 
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As I recall, someone on this forum was doing a thread on installing a Painless harness in their vehicle. A one time, it was supposed to be done step by step. Might want to spend a few minutes researching for the thread.
 

Rusty67

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If you are geting the universal wiring kit, I'd suguest geting an 18 circuit kit and upgrading to a 3G alternator. The 18 circuit wont give you millions of extra wires but gives you a few extra circuits.

If you want something easy to install then just get the painless prefabricated drop in kit. It will be less time and headache to install.
 
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truck90278 said:
As I recall, someone on this forum was doing a thread on installing a Painless harness in their vehicle. A one time, it was supposed to be done step by step. Might want to spend a few minutes researching for the thread.
Click to expand...

This is the one I've been following: http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=743333
 
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