Highbredcloud said:I think you should spend you money elsewhere...if anything just get a better coil if it is going on a stock Mustang...even though there is nothing wrong with the stock coil...What an ignition initially does if give it multi-spark so that the fuel is burnt more efficiently...this will result in better performance maybe even better gas millage but on a modded car...The only time you should think about an ignition is once you do heads, cam, intake swap or when you get a supercharger...other than that don't wast your time...BTW: if you were to get an ignition go with Crane HI-6...it is way better than MSD 6 AL for the same price...Hope this helps.
GMstomper said:I have to disagree on this one. The multi-spark causes you to burn more of the fuel in the combustion chamber. More efficient fuel burn does mean more power and slightly better milage. You also get the added bennefit of the chambers staying cleaner because of better fuel combustion...which means less power loss due to build up over the same amount of time. Saving you on how often you need to have the injectors and combustion chambers proffesionally cleaned (no dumbing in a bottle of crap you bought at pep boys will do the job).
GMstomper said:I just disagree that its not worth it on a mostly stock motor. Its just because I rather have it stay cleaner and have to do it less often. Plus if a mod will make your car run cleaner I feel its always worth it...every lil bit less polition helps. The same reason why I'm dead set against off road h-pipes.
Highbredcloud said:Sorry but this makes no sense...it's not like the cumbustion chambers will be cleaner...with the ignition box...there will still be carbon build up on the vavles and combustion chambers...You say you want to get power out of things but yet you are against using an off-road H-pipe...? I don't get it...
GMstomper said:Yes there will still be deposits but it wont build up as quickly if engine is burning fuel more efficiently. hi-flow cats don't cost you that much power vs off road. There are plenty of other ways to make power. I know IL has yet to adopt any form of inspection....either mechanical or emissions. But it will come sooner or later and you won't have a choice if you want to pass. Theres plenty of people in polution controled states who have no problem making power w/cats
Highbredcloud said:Steve...I appreciate your environmental concern, however, it's not the Mustangs with off road H/X-pipes pulluting the air...it's the semi trucks, school busses and every other industrail machinery...So how come they are exempt from emissions?
Black331Stang said:your right about th emissions stuff, but most states have inspection, how do u think people pass? its done illegally, its not liek there is NO way to pass without cats.
since this totally went off topic id like to add something....about the Crane HI-6,
why do u say its better? last time i looked, if i remember correctly, the crane didnt have a rev limiter (or at least a changable limiter) that is the best thing about the MSD...but if it does have a chip system for the limiter, than i would say, yeah go for crane.
sleeper89 said:Highbredcloud- mind if i ask your name? i hate using screen names.
i agree that it's ridiculous that the trucks/buses/machines etc are exempt as they are the largest polluters. however, mustangs with offroad pipes do compound the problem. let's face it, even catted vehicles pollute too much. even 1.6L hondas pollute too much. so unless you're a heads up racer in a sanctioned body where every tenth/hp/lb is important why not love the earth and sacrifice a couple hp. the kids you have/may have will love you for it.
BTW- hi flow cats are pretty good these days, should put you within a few hp of no cats.
-steve
Highbredcloud said:My name is Greg...reason why I don't mind "polluting" is that I have been a witness on many occasion with modded Mustangs passing emission without the cats...Yes believe it or not it's all in the tune...I highly doubt a Mustang with an off road H/X-pipe pullutes even 1/4 of the industrial trucks etc...If the enviornment is the main concern we should focus on things like factories, trains, industrial air condition units to save the earth...High flow cats would be a nice solution but for a good set $400 is very questionalbe...No kids yet and none in the near future...must finish college and get a good job first...
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