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I have noticed recently that when closing the passenger door on my '96 Cobra, the door did not always shut as easily as it should. I started checking it closely and noticed that the door window glass is too close to the roof at the rear of the door. I pulled the door panel off and finally found the problem - the metal channel that is "glued" to the glass is loose - no longer "glued". Does anyone have have good tips on how to repair this?
 

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Common issue - same happened to my wife's 01. Clean the channel really well and then reglue it into place. Make sure you get all the old glue and gunk out of the channel or the window will still be too high and you'll have to do it all over again (been there, done that!).
 

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Damn, mine does this all the time on the passenger side! New project for Sunday :SNSign:
 

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Post pics if any of you actually do this little project, i have this problem on my drivers side door.
 
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twogts4us said:
Common issue - same happened to my wife's 01. Clean the channel really well and then reglue it into place. Make sure you get all the old glue and gunk out of the channel or the window will still be too high and you'll have to do it all over again (been there, done that!).
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What kind of glue did you use? Looks like silicone to me...
 
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Well I would suggest buying a whole new glass assembly. The glue job you do is going to be a temp fix at best and you are just going to have to go back in there eventually. Why not get new parts, go in there once and just do it right? Taking the door apart is kind of a hassle so I would go the route that involves doing that as few times as possible...
 

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Kilgore Trout said:
Well I would suggest buying a whole new glass assembly. The glue job you do is going to be a temp fix at best and you are just going to have to go back in there eventually. Why not get new parts, go in there once and just do it right? Taking the door apart is kind of a hassle so I would go the route that involves doing that as few times as possible...
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Sounds like you're speaking from experience Killy. What parts exactly have to be switched out? MIght as well do it right the first time.
 
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I have read the shop manual - it is not easy - it involves drilling out rivets & then re-riveting things back together - also, new glass from Ford is about $300. I don't drive the car a great deal (trying to purchase an '07 Shelby GT) so I was hoping to get by fairly cheap on the repair....
 

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I would use 3m WINDOW WELD. Available at any autobody supply store
 
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thos96 said:
I have read the shop manual - it is not easy - it involves drilling out rivets & then re-riveting things back together - also, new glass from Ford is about $300. I don't drive the car a great deal (trying to purchase an '07 Shelby GT) so I was hoping to get by fairly cheap on the repair....
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Do not let those rivets scare you. I had to replace my window regulator (made a great thread with pics and prices). I got a huge rivet gun at Harbor Freight for $17 and I got the rivets at the Ford parts counter for 85 cents each

Window rivets are special though, you need the exact correct ones...

Before you attempt to drill out the rivets that hold the glass to the regulator arm, use a fine drift or punch to carefully strike out the small pin out of the center of the rivet. Do not forget to vacuum out the inside of the door to avoid annoying rattling sounds every time you slam the door.

You can definitely do it, take a look at my thread: http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=667929&highlight=window+regulator Take your time removing the door panel and make sure it goes back together perfect. When I work with interior trim it is often necessary to take it back off and try again until it is just right. This will prevent rattles and misalignment.

3M makes some good stuff, that stuff mentioned above will probably work and will be cheaper than new glass.

Good luck

Edit: Here is the monster rivet gun and it is actually $10 SUCH a deal!



http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=41291
 
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I'll try the glue first

I got one of those large rivet guns so that I could replace the door handles on my '87 GT, it worked, but I have not been able to get it to work reliably since then - the grippers just don't bite into the stem of the rivet. Thanks for the advice!!
 
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Glued in

Sorry that I took so long to let you know what I did. I wanted a warm day, and the weather has been very crummy the last few weekends. The hard part was properly cleaning the old silicon (?) glue off the glass & metal. The is limited access, and there is almost no access to the glass towards the outside. I cleaned as best I could and wiped it down with alcohol. I used 30 minute epoxy that sticks to metal & glass (I wanted more working time than the 5 minute epoxy). I gobbed the epoxy on the glass and the metal channel as best I could and then reseated the glass. It is now curing. See the two pictures for what I did.
 

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