Drifting Fox

A lot of corn-fed muscle car fan boys are quick to jump on the "drifting is lame" bandwagon, but I think it's awesome. It's just another way to compete in a high power automobile, what's wrong with that? I mean, since when is a ludicrous amount of power and a complete lack of traction not entertaining?
 
A lot of corn-fed muscle car fan boys are quick to jump on the "drifting is lame" bandwagon, but I think it's awesome. It's just another way to compete in a high power automobile, what's wrong with that? I mean, since when is a ludicrous amount of power and a complete lack of traction not entertaining?

I agree. its fun, but its not a "lets do this every week" kinda fun. Maybe 1 or 2 weekends out of the year kinda fun.
 
A lot of corn-fed muscle car fan boys are quick to jump on the "drifting is lame" bandwagon, but I think it's awesome. It's just another way to compete in a high power automobile, what's wrong with that? I mean, since when is a ludicrous amount of power and a complete lack of traction not entertaining?

agreed, if you gave them a tire sponsor they'd be all over it. I think alot of the reason is its mostly an import thing. I dont really like watchin the imports, but the american drift cars are cool to me. It definitly takes skill on the professional level, and rednecks have been sliding thier cars in empty parking lots for years
 
and rednecks have been sliding thier cars in empty parking lots for years

Exactly. Taking a controlled power slide, turning it into an event and renaming it "drifting" is not exactly innovative and hardly a sport. Sure, some skill is involved, but not nearly the level as any other type of racing. Hell, anyone who's ever experienced a snowy winter in a rear wheel drive vehicle becomes an experienced "drifter" within a couple of weeks. We Canadians are experts at it. :D

In any case....I find it entertaining for all of about 3-seconds....at which point its...well, who gives a crap. He's sliding the back end around and making tire smoke…..next? :shrug:

I love the people that claim it takes "balls of steel" to do as well. Oooooo, I'm sliding my back end around on a track maaaybe approaching break neck speeds of all of 30mph. If I crash, I might scuff my fender….my heart can't take it!!! :rolleyes: Try heading into a corner, or a wall at triple digit speeds like the guys competing in road or drag racing events. Now that will make your butthole pucker. Not this figure skating on asphalt crap. :notnice:
 
Exactly. Taking a controlled power slide, turning it into an event and renaming it "drifting" is not exactly innovative and hardly a sport. Sure, some skill is involved, but not nearly the level as any other type of racing. Hell, anyone who's ever experienced a snowy winter in a rear wheel drive vehicle becomes an experienced "drifter" within a couple of weeks. We Canadians are experts at it. :D

In any case....I find it entertaining for all of about 3-seconds....at which point its...well, who gives a crap. He's sliding the back end around and making tire smoke…..next? :shrug:

I love the people that claim it takes "balls of steel" to do as well. Oooooo, I'm sliding my back end around on a track maaaybe approaching break neck speeds of all of 30mph. If I crash, I might scuff my fender….my heart can't take it!!! :rolleyes: Try heading into a corner, or a wall at triple digit speeds like the guys competing in road or drag racing events. Now that will make your butthole pucker. Not this figure skating on asphalt crap. :notnice:
Dont know what drift events you go to but, ken gushi, Vaugh Gitten, Ken block. All ritualistically enter at 100mph plus and exit around 90mph, with another car inches away from them. Watch it more before talking ****.
 
Dont know what drift events you go to but, ken gushi, Vaugh Gitten, Ken block. All ritualistically enter at 100mph plus and exit around 90mph, with another car inches away from them. Watch it more before talking ****.

Yeah, yeah.....I've seen the production stuff. Big deal. Those Ken Block video's have been cut, edited and retaken so many times they can hardly be classified as any form of racing anymore. You don't get 15-chances and multiple takes to race around a pylon in real life. Entertaining the first time I watched it, but it got old, fast. As for the rest.....the pro’s may at times enter the corners in a hurry when competing "solo", but 100mph+??? You’d better check your radar gun, because I have yet to see it. I also have yet to see them push it to the limits with another car on their tail. You wanna see fast in close contact, watch a NASCAR race (which I incidentally find a little dull as well).....then talk to me about inches off the bumper, at high speeds.

If you want to jump onto the "drift" bandwagon, then by all means join the fan club and buy the T-Shirt, but don't get all bent out of shape when those of us who choose "traditional" forms of racing elect not to. IMO, it’s most certainly the "bowling" of the automotive world. I may be no drift expert, but I know what I like and don't like and I've watched enough of it to know it bores me. View attachment 204956
 
I know Vaugh Gitten and his crew manager and went to every D1 event before toyota speedway kicked them out. Im very aware of the speeds they were traveling at, I've watched countless events in person. And yes they are all in excess of 80mph side by side, sideways. I like drifting, i like watching. But i still transferred over everything to road racing on my car, im only defending it by pointing out the mis-information in your post.
 
i like drifting, i think its pretty damn cool being in a controlled slide. but i really dont think its that entertaining when they just do circles like the vid above. now i think Vaughn Gittin jr is pretty bad ass. ken blocks videos are pretty cool aswell.
 
You guys busting on drifting saying it's not a sport...i dare say it takes more car control to drift a car 2 feet away from another car around twists and turns, than it does to power a drag car down a drag strip, and we all consider drag racing a sport don't we? No offense but you guys need to be a little more open minded. It looks like good clean fun to me.
 
Exactly. Taking a controlled power slide, turning it into an event and renaming it "drifting" is not exactly innovative and hardly a sport. Sure, some skill is involved, but not nearly the level as any other type of racing. Hell, anyone who's ever experienced a snowy winter in a rear wheel drive vehicle becomes an experienced "drifter" within a couple of weeks. We Canadians are experts at it. :D

In any case....I find it entertaining for all of about 3-seconds....at which point its...well, who gives a crap. He's sliding the back end around and making tire smoke…..next? :shrug:

I love the people that claim it takes "balls of steel" to do as well. Oooooo, I'm sliding my back end around on a track maaaybe approaching break neck speeds of all of 30mph. If I crash, I might scuff my fender….my heart can't take it!!! :rolleyes: Try heading into a corner, or a wall at triple digit speeds like the guys competing in road or drag racing events. Now that will make your butthole pucker. Not this figure skating on asphalt crap. :notnice:

Did you watch the videos of that mustang, id say he's doing more than 30mph, and there is one point where he is within a foot of the car in front of him, i didnt say rednecks have been doing it for years to downplay the fact that these guys dont have driving skill, i more thing its funny that they are the ones that talk all the smack and do it themselves. A car sideways in the snow and a car sideways on a dry closed course are two different things. I dont expect you to be impressed though, when it comes to things you clearly dont understand you always just come off as jaded anyways, so im not really suprised.

As far as the ken block stuff goes, everyone always says that he does multiple takes, has no talent, cant drive, yada yada, well the stuff he does is pretty precious driving and i dont think anyone could do one of his videos, front to back, in one take, and if they did it wouldnt be too entertaining.

Discrediting Ken Block would be like saying to a nascar fan that all of thier drivers are no talent, no balls, junk drivers because they spend months out of the year testing and dont just go into the race cold turkey with no practice and get everything right first shot.

Heres another *yawn* 30mph granny video
YouTube - Tanner Foust Street Drift: Mulholland
 
I’m sorry….which of the listed video’s you linked me to should that event be in? :scratch:
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I dont expect you to be impressed though, when it comes to things you clearly dont understand you always just come off as jaded anyways, so im not really suprised.
Interesting that you assume that if I’m not impressed with something, I must not understand it. :rolleyes: Let me set you strait…..I understand it, I just don't care for it.

As far as the ken block stuff goes, everyone always says that he does multiple takes, has no talent, cant drive, yada yada, well the stuff he does is pretty precious driving and i dont think anyone could do one of his videos, front to back, in one take, and if they did it wouldnt be too entertaining.
As long as you realize those video's are meant to be entertaining. I'd hardly consider it the typical occurring of one of these drift events. I don’t recal once accusing him of any of the above though?

Like I said....cool to watch the first couple of times, but more production value than anything.


Discrediting Ken Block would be like saying to a nascar fan that all of thier drivers are no talent, no balls, junk drivers because they spend months out of the year testing and dont just go into the race cold turkey with no practice and get everything right first shot.
Again putting words in my mouth? I've discredited nobody. I merely pointed out the fact that what he does in his promotional videos and what occurs during the course of a legitimate drift event have little more in common than the fact that both of them slide their cars around.

Meh….what are you expecting me to say. You’re not trying to convince me that he was doing much more than 30mph through most of that stretch are you? I could be wrong….he might have gotten to 40mph once or twice. Hell, the only time I saw him really moving was on a strait away and even that was only for a few seconds. But going into corners at 100mph and coming out at speeds of 90mph+ like one member stated is a huge….huge exaggeration. Don’t let high tach RPM and a lot of tire smoke fool you into thinking he was traveling at any great speeds.

In any case, it really doesn’t matter how fast you get them going….it really just doesn’t impress me. It’s repetitive, it’s slow, and it’s dull. I must just be a Neanderthal I guess?

I will admit, it’s probably a lot of fun to do, but it’s like seeing paint cure to watch. :shrug:
 
:rolleyes:
We were sitting on the other side of the crash wall at irwindale with the radar gun and even the E86's were going 60-70mph (not bad for 175whp) And the big HP muscle cars , vettes, stangs, vipers, mopars etc were all doing 90+ each drift.
YouTube - BMW M3 DRIFTING - 100mph sideways
Again, you've never been to a drift competition so you really have no place to talk do you :shrug: They call off entry speeds as they approach the judges tower. All goes into the scoring system.
Guaranteed this vid he's going faster than 40mph
YouTube - Vaugh Gittin practice run