RICKS said:So basically the fact that the rear end was a bit jumpy in a bumpy corner compared to those other cars is something that is no big surprise, and is not necessarily a "bad" thing.
pony542 said:And by the way ... these events are not meant to critique the car the way magazines would. There are performance engineers that do that for a living. These people are supposed to represent the REAL WORLD CAR BUYER. It doesnt matter if the rear end is kicking out or not, or how the brakes actually perform .... its what the driver FEELS the car is like.
99LEGT said:Really who gives a sh";.t , I can't believe this thread is still running!!!
66Satellite said:Maybe because this is the first guy who has posted here who has actually driven the car? Seems more interesting than speculating about MSRP and possible exhaust modifications...
02roush said:RICKS, do you really think thats a great comment? Or is it your half-assed attempt at a final remark?
If its so true, then 99% of television owners are clueless because they don't know that NTSC broadcasts at 30 frames a second, each frame has 525 interlaced diagnol scans, the 18th scan line carries SAP, what ghost referencing is, blah blah blah.
And you must think 99% of AM/FM radios are clueless because they don't know how a sine wave works? Or why their FM goes out in tunnels, but AM doesn't? The difference of frequency modulation and amplitude modulation.
People don't have to know the technical terminology of things to have an opinion on them. You can still go to Best Buy and look at the picture of different brands of TVs and decide which one you like. Or listen to a stereo and decide which sounds better.
02roush said:Now, any real questions?
"As far as the rear end being "loose", well, the 350Z doesn't have the torque to break the rear tires loose under power in a corner, the RX8 even more-so, and the GTO is much heavier and likely is tuned to understeer and push in the corners. I HOPE that the GT is aggressively tuned to understeer slightly, so that you can control the tail-out and attitude in the corner with the throttle. Most cars dial in a bit of understeer so that bad drivers stay out of trouble and don't get sideways at the limit. If what we've read here is true, it sounds as if the new Mustang isn't compromised for bad drivers."
02roush said:Like I said, "loose" was the word I chose to describe it. It felt a lot like my 02 Stage 1(which is a GT suspension). I was never really powering out of corners, so I'm not really sure about what RICKS was saying of powering thru understeer/oversteer. I've also never had my Roush on a road course to compare it to. Unfortunately, all I had to compare it to was the other three cars. So thats why I mention them. The Mustang I drove last. So I had a hard time not comparing it to the three that I drove thru the exact same roads before it. It did seem to have softer springs thatn the others. It was the smoothest over the rough road. Also, at the end of the test, we pulled into the lot over a small lip, and it did a little side-to-side toss. The others hit the lip harder, but stayed still side-to-side.
As for modifications, I think they did like the previous GTs. A nice enough car for the average consumer, but the hardcore guys will definetly want to upgrade.
BTW, I was talking to one of our producers today, and he did the same survey on Tuesday. I asked him what he thought of the Stang(before giving him my opinion) and he said it was the worst handling of the four. But he loved everything else about it. He said he didn't know it was the new Mustang when he drove it.
02roush said:Like I said, "loose" was the word I chose to describe it. It felt a lot like my 02 Stage 1(which is a GT suspension). I was never really powering out of corners, so I'm not really sure about what RICKS was saying of powering thru understeer/oversteer. I've also never had my Roush on a road course to compare it to. Unfortunately, all I had to compare it to was the other three cars. So thats why I mention them. The Mustang I drove last. So I had a hard time not comparing it to the three that I drove thru the exact same roads before it. It did seem to have softer springs thatn the others. It was the smoothest over the rough road. Also, at the end of the test, we pulled into the lot over a small lip, and it did a little side-to-side toss. The others hit the lip harder, but stayed still side-to-side.
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