DSS Main Girdle--What pickup and pan are required?

[bc474]

I found a good deal on a used Dss 331 with the girdle. I want to know what oil pickup setup and pan are required. Can I use the stock parts?

 

[Rick 91GT]

Usually the studs from the girdle hit a stock pan, some guys just dent the pan but I don't like that.

I have run Cantoms with no issues at all, and it even cleared the side pan scrapers, although now Canton has a pan to work with girdles along with a pick-up made to clear. Contact Brian @ www.ADPerformance.com [email protected] he has great pricing, tell him Rick Hawver sent you

 

[5.0 HOtrain]

Ditto on what Rick said. I first used the moroso on the 418 with my probe girdle and the pickup wasnt even close to fitting. Went with canton pan/pickup, fit fine.
mike.

 

[tvmango]

the dss girdle doesn't interfere with the stock pan, the pickup needs a spacer you can get through dss.it lengthens the pickup tube a bit to clear around the girdle. just call them and talk to tom,,

 

[bc474]

Thanks for the imput guys. I can live with a dented oil pan versus $300 for a new one. Is the probe girdle the same as the DSS? I had heard that you can use a stock pickup, maybe some guys with the DSS girdle on a 302 will chime in.

 

[tvmango]

I have one, and just answered your ? It will NOT dent your pan , and you need to lengthen the pickup tube about 3/8 of an inch to make it around the girdle,, the hardest part about it is making your dipstick work, you have to bend the dipstick tube near the girdle to clear the girdle, and it's a real bitch if you have to remove the tube after..

 

[tvmango]

a probe one may give you a problem but I know my dss motor with a dss girdle and windage tray fits with my stock 88 pan.. i now have the dss 7 quart pan , but the stock fits..

 

[bc474]

Yeah Tvmango, your post wasnt there when I was writing mine. Thanks for the info man. I will call DSS about the spacer on the pickup.

 

[tvmango]

sorry bro.... ask for tom when you call. he's the owner, and knows all... LOL

 

[Rick 91GT]

I just installed a DSS girdle set-up on a 331 I built for a guy and it hit the stock pan he had... The motor was originally a DSS Pro-Bullet crate motor and the pan was dented for the 2 center studs.


The DSS and Probe are totally different, you need to machine the caps on the Probe/CHP model.

 

[5.0 HOtrain]

Is the probe girdle the same as the DSS? .

No, the DSS is aluminum and 3/4 inch thick. The probe is steel and was 3/8 or 1/2, cant remember of the top of my head. The dss is thicker so it will be as strong as a steel one. Wichever one fits with a stock pan I dont know, TVmango says yes, rick says no Good luck.

 

[Rick 91GT]

No, the DSS is aluminum and 3/4 inch thick. The probe is steel and was 3/8 or 1/2, cant remember of the top of my head. The dss is thicker so it will be as strong as a steel one. Wichever one fits with a stock pan I dont know, TVmango says yes, rick says no Good luck.

Check out his other thread on Corral...

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=445564

"The pan was the tricky part. I forget the year, i believe 86 and earlier will work. Ford will tell you they are all the same, but the 86 has a slightly taller middle section that was necessary to clear the girdle."

"I used my 90 stock pan after I dimpled it where the main studs hit. That's four years ago and I haven't had any problems"

Canton now offers a pick-up that clears girdles and reduces the amount of bending that is needed on the stock pickup, it is made to work with there pan however. If your looking at a Canton, contact Brian Adams www.adperformance.com [email protected] he is one of my 2004 supporters and can get you the parts you need.