Really? hmmm. DSS doesn't offer too many choices on internals, and the only longblocks I saw on VT's website were the "Street" and "Race" etc... they didn't get very specific on specs or brands. I was just wondering why VT was so much higher, because in the Fox world DSS is higher-priced than most other engine builders.DBMSTNG said:as far as quality and standing by it's product, VT engines wins big over DSS.
UNVMATT said:There isnt anything wrong with the DSS kit.. MM&FF and 5.0&SF both have used DSS with no problems. Rick Anderson also uses DSS built blocks, and if its good enough for him its good enough for anyone! DSS has great blueprinting operations. In a recent MM&FF test, they picked up 20hp just by switching from a stock low mileage short block to a DSS built short block..And the DSS short block didnt even have the lighter weight pistons that they now offer.
hognutz said:All that being said I am sure they are both great shortblocks.
hognutz said:don't think anyone said there was anything wrong with DSS.
bottom line is no forged crank until you drop $3500. that would make me lean towards VT on the more buget shortblocks. $2500 completely forged vs dss $2799 with a nodular iron crank.
Now if I were going to drop the $3500 you woudl just have to go with what you prefer. i don't see a matarial advantage anywhere in either kit. the main difference is VT uses other compaies rod's and pistions and DSS uses it's own I guess. I am not sure if the parts are made in house or purchased from another company. you would have to call to find that out. I would assume they have them made to thier specs buy someone else.
All that being said I am sure they are both great shortblocks.
hotmustang331 said:VT is also pricey and thats also not an opinion LOL. If you look at that $2500 VT forged block, its only good for 500HP, and doesnt include oil pump or pickup or rear seal plate. It says its simply a forged stock replacement, no H beam rods either, and uses stock main cap bolts. I wouldnt buy it if your gonna put alot of boost on it. And their stroker SB kit is 4K.
Scott, do you guys do P&P and valve jobs on the 03/04 Cobra heads?VTEngine said:Actually the S/R DOES come with Hbeam forged rods. Made on the same assembly line as the Manley and Eagle Hbeams. We're engine builders, not assemblers. Very few engine shops do their own machining in house, so DSS and ourselves are one of the rare. If you take time to compare SHM, DSS, VT, etc., and look at the COMPONENTS, not just the price, you'll see they're all closely priced. Ex: SHM's l/b's are similarily priced to ours. However, you get stock springs, stock valves, and mild porting. Ours comes with Stainless ferrea valves, Comp valvesprings, and CNC porting. Same price, but which do you think is the better deal?
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